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Old 09.01.2008, 10:58 PM   #75
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There is a difference between the word faith and the word belief. Faith is a more specific and firm belief. But arguing the semantics of faith vs. belief in a philosophical argument is just being nitpicky in comparison to the arguing the difference between "to truly know" and "to believe in/have faith in." Regardless, I prefer to say "to believe" instead of "to have faith" in. The separation of what I believe in and what I have faith in is not nearly as black and white as the separation of what I know, what I believe in, what I don't believe in, and what I'm unsure I believe in. Within what I believe in is a subcategory of faith.

You're not very careful in choosing your words.

You "believe you exist" but know that "when you die you'll no longer exist"?

You know you exist but believe when you die you'll no longer exist.

Now that is a very important distinction.

As for "disproving the God"

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" - Carl Sagan

If that were not the case, you could disprove everything but your own existence in some state. You can't prove or disprove anything scientifically. You don't truly have evidence for anything but your own existence, and the evidence for that is consciousness.

I'm a strict believer in Cognito Ergo Sum. I know one thing. Everything else I choose to have faith in/believe in.

And yes, I don't know whether or not Zeus does or doesn't exist. I don't believe Zeus exists as a God, because his existence contradicts what I do believe in. I cautiously believe in archaeology (I admit cautiouslessly because I believe many archaeologists jump to conclusions. Such as relating common names of the time on tombs and other artifacts to those of biblical characters.) And in Archaeology, there is nothing on the archaeological record to suggest that he is real. Also, I believe God means all powerful, and Zeus contradicts my definition.

Although, I could also suppose that Zeus does exist as an angel or fallen angel, and that his children such as Heracles were Nephalim. But that's merely a whimsical theory.

On the other hand one of the reasons I believe that God exists because I believe in the bible. One of the reasons I believe in the bible because of its relation to historical record and archaeological finds. I've never been to Israel (well I don't know I haven't been there but I strongly believe I've never physically been there because I believe my eyes, my ears, my nose, and in modern cartography) but I've been to places (I believe I've been there- see why I don't believe I've been to Israel) where there is strong evidence that the apostles spoke. I've been to places where mythological characters are said to have been, but there is much less evidence to that. There are more abstract reasons I believe in the Bible, God, and Christ's divinity, but I need not to go into that. This is just in example of belief vs disbelief, although it is ultimately irrelevant anyways. I have my own logic which is based upon feelings and the logic which I believe is taught in schools.
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