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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
KHChris, what does your music sound like anyways? You don't really seem to advocate effects. Do you just use a guitar straight into an undistorted amp and play stuff? If you told us that your music sounded like Sonic Youth, and we listened to it, and it didn't sound just like Sonic Youth, could we call your pretentious for naming a band in sounds like that you don't sound all that much like?
Wait, doesn't Lee Ranaldo use effects too? I'm pretty sure he uses a ring modulator, overdrive, and delay. Isn't that really preconceived? Why would you support with your hard earned money such a pretentious band? They call themselves post-bratcore, you just know what kind of crowd they are trying to attract with a genre label like that.
I don't know if you know this, but when musicians try to describe what they sound like, they usually name bands that are vaguely similar and are decently known to the listener. Just to give an idea of what they sound like, not to tell the listener exactly what to expect. When I was a radio DJ, when getting debut CDs from bands I've never heard of, it would say RIYL on the CDs, and name bands with similar qualities. Not exact copies.
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There's nothing wrong with efx as long as you have a reason/meaning to use them. Using them just to "fill in sound" means that you've ran out of ideas. SY have done an excellent job of knowing when to use efx and what efx to use. They don't just use efx just to "layer" sounds arbitrarily.
Do I play undistorted guitar? Sure. Do I play distorted guitar? Sure. I don't limit myself to using "just" distorted guitar. Maybe you do, good luck with that. As far as my music, well I really don't know what my guitar style sounds like. If I don't have an accurate description of what my guitar sounds like, that's much better than lying about what my music sounds like. I'd rather not lie to people. I've only associated SY as being really 1 label and it's a label that majority labeled them when I first discovered them for myself: post-punk. Pretty broad, but pretty accurate. What is "post brat-core" anyways? Never heard of it.
I don't know if you know this, but anyone who honestly goes around labeling themselves as a "musician" unless they are really working as a trade as a musician and making a career out of it, it's usually a term dropped by people who want to try to impress naive people who don't know any better. I know people in many bands from Pinback, Three Mile Pilot, The Plot to Blow Up the Eiffel Tower, Mae-shi, and many other bands and not once have I ever heard any of them label themselves as "musician". Rob is just a guy who writes songs and loves to make songs that happens to be in Pinback. You would never in a million years hear him say, "my name is Rob and I'm a musician".
From my experiences, the best bands do not need to "lead" people on to believe that they "sound like My Bloody Valentine". They really don't use other bands to describe their music at all. They leave that for the fans to discuss. The difference between you being a DJ and informing listeners of bands that may be close comparisons and you making those "close comparisons" is that as a DJ, you are the "listener" and fan.