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Originally Posted by atari 2600
Forgive my curtness, but this really sounds like a personal problem. I mean, it really, really does. Is your "art" done with the intention of shock value? It certainly seems that sentence was concocted out of a need to shock. I will hope it was an exagerration made for effect.
My "fairly narrow definition?" That's a laugh...it's more like a case of your personal exceedingly liberal definition of the guitar and guitar playing.
Now we get into both the literal and philosophical definition of exactly what a guitar is. Because if you're "playing" a guitar without strings, Florya, you might as well add whatever gizmos or whatever method to your madness you've got going there to a piece of wood or whatever instead. Why don't you just "play" a department store mannequin or a stuffed rainbow trout?
It certainly seems you're using the guitar shape merely as a prop.
Is it some sort of political statement you've got going there? ...something about the phallocentric nature of guitars? (haha) I know, I know you're some sort of Fluxus enthusiast, right? Hey, remember Woody Guthrie: This Machine Kills Fascists. Ya know, Woody did just a wee bit more for culture than the Fluxists did.
I swear, as fucked-up as this board is, I never expected a reply as bonkers as yours. It's not so much as what you do is completely bonkers as is the off the wall way you stated your so-called "argument" in all seriousness. And just in case anyone is in the dark, I'm someone that likes a lot of performance art and performance artists.
I surely didn't want to get into name-calling again, but damn, that shit left me no choice, Mr. Fluxus Maciunas.
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Carrot Top here.
Apologies for the delay in replying but I live in a different time zone from your good self and was probably sleeping whilst you were composing your tirade.
I've never given a thought to the phallocentric nature of guitars. Is that some sort of description of the way people pose with their instruments?
There is no politcal dimension to my response either.
It is merely an honest description of the ways I have used guitars to produce sounds that guitars wouldn't normally make.
I will admit that I have used a guitar, complete with strings to produce sound, and I have used 'alt tunings' but don't ask me to tabulate the chords - I have no fucking clue what they were. All I know is that the sound was good.
I don't find the notion of burning a guitar to see what it sounds like in the least bit shocking, so no, it wasn't said for shock value. After all it wasn't like it was
your guitar that I threw on the fire was it? You should try it some day, you might be pleasantly surprised.
Atari, you're just going to have to get used to the fact that not everyone agrees with you. Ranting and name calling does little to enhance your argument, and the vehemence with which you endow your vitriol could be perceived by others as slightly 'bonkers'.
In your opinion I'm a lunatic - I respect that opinion whilst opposing it in the strongest possible terms. Were we ever to meet I'm sure that you would change your opinion, although as a precaution you need to know that I would be wearing a stab vest.
I will not be responding to any further comments that you make on this topic, you and I have hijacked avantgarde1's thread for too long now.
Might I suggest you go and have a glass of water. I'm off to my shed to bite the heads off a few kittens.
