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i have to admit i kind of found them tolerable during the pop era, i actually applauded them from stepping away from their usual crap and for saving enough money to buy the retch a phase pedal and a wah and hiding his digital delay. discoteque was hilarious, mofo had some good production and staring at the sun is their best song ever. most of it's still crap though.
of course, they got afraid because they sold 4 trillion tickets of their tour and the album went quintuple platinum instead of sextuple, so they decided to give the retch his pedal and write sunday crappy sunday over and over again.
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