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Originally Posted by Hip Priest

In order to be free we must all be slaves to the law. That's the first thing we were taught in law class.

Libel laws can rest perfectly easily within a system of free speech. 'Free speech', I think, is best seen as the right to speak honest opinion rather than the right to spout than bigotry, anger or misinformed nonsense. It also allows for the right of reply. That would be the inherent idea of rights with responsibilities.

oh yeah you have a pretty reasonable view of it. i wasn't refuting your arguments, i was addressing a general simplistic view of free speech that was carelessly spouted in other posts.