Originally Posted by tesla69
No need to be a snit, thats why I posted the followup. You see, I WANT the answer, I'm not stuck on any agenda. However, there are some studies from Europe that have shown an effect on insects. I noticed the test you mention seem to be about monarch caterpillars and may not be analogous to the bees. Monarch larva eat milkweed leaves. The bees eat pollen of genetically engineered corn, corn engineered to be deadly to insects. But I will stand by my statements that Monsanto are evil and they do hate this country. They want a different america where they own all the genetic information and they get a royalty for every seed planted. And you will go to jail if you try to save any seeds. And god forbid Monsanto's shit should drift in the wind and infect your fields - Monsanto will sue you and win. Its your fault their pollen drifted onto your land. Its happened a bunch of times.
To be honest, putting your faith in scientific journals can be as sketchy as the newspapers - science and media are all run by the same corporatists.
Apologies if I got irritated, but the fact of the matter is that you did seem to have an agenda, and had your conclusions drawn before even attempting to explore the topic further. Only one of the studies I mentioned dealt with caterpillars and butterflies, which although it does not reflect directly on the bee situation, does point out that GM crops are not necessarily harmful. Meanwhile, you're ignoring the studies I mentioned about Bt corn and bees. I don't need to list the facts that I've already mentioned above.
You can stand by your statements about Monsanto. I know about the seed royalty thing, and yeah Monsanto sucks, but that has nothing to do with bees. On the genetic patenting and stuff, has anyone here read Next
by Michael Crichton?