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Originally Posted by Pookie

None of that has anything to do with Christmas per se.

strictly, christmas is about the birth of jesus, right? well, there are a lot of non-christians in the world who have no reason to give a fuck about such a date.

then there's the pagan version, the winder holidays, the saturnalia, all manner of ancient winter festivals, and that would be fine, but our current mass-produced version of it is what annoys me.

now, goat sacrifice followed by orgy, that's what i call a celebration....