[porkmarras]

Originally Posted by Tokolosh

The truth is that as to why of people have to defend themselves or make an issue about being gay, black, short, fat, whatever. This isn't even about being gay. It's about the urgent need to prove a point, that has already been dealt with... at least in a lot of western progressive countries, that is.

You live in London, right? Do you feel that you have to watch your words and back as a gay man in London? I can't imagine that the average Londoner still has difficulties regarding this issue. It's a different story in other places though, and if gays there have to go out and protest, it would make sense and have it's purpose. You bring it up a lot on this forum, and to me, it says more about the way you feel personally, than the average Londoner does. You might have your reasons for that. I don't know.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're victimizing yourself when there's no reason too.
I'm not trying to attack you, by the way. I'm just asking questions, ok?

Right,go and check all my posts and bring back here all the ones where you find that i have been 'victimizing' myself.This is interesting as you still are making a statement but(like your buddy atari) have not sufficient or consistent proof of it.