[Hip Priest]

Originally Posted by khchris(original)

I'm pretty disappointed in you Hip-Priest. I understand that trunkster is your friend as is Noumenal, but I think you've either totally ignored the fact that it was Noumenal who came on to this thread for one reason only: starting shit. I understand he's your friend, but to sit here and talk about what a lousy person I am and defend Noumenal even though it was Noumenal who started in on me, I'm pretty disappointed by the favoritism you've displayed while ignoring the root of the problem: noumenal, ^&%*&^$, and trunkster.

There was no efort to 'start shit', and I mean that sincerely. The insults directed at noumenal and truncated were unfair, in my opinion.

It is absolutely not right to suggest (as you did) that the one person's opinion is inferior, or that he or she is not to be taken seriously, merely because you have been using the Sonic Youth forum for a longer space of time. Do you submit to others merely because they have been on internet forums for longer? I'm sure you are intelligent enough to have better criteria than that, khchris?

Originally Posted by khchris(original)

Noumenal did not come on the thread to talk about "Internet dating". He came on to the "Internet Dating" thread to start shit with people. If you really are that much of a favoritist, do everyone else here a favor: just keep quite please.

Hip Priest you're free to hurl insults, but I don't think you can handle the insults hurled back at you, which is why you refuse.

Sorry, khchris, but re-read my post. Then tell me where I hurled insults. There were no insults contained in my post, just an expression of dissappoinment and an expression of opinion. Similar to the expression of dissappointment and expression of opinion that you have shown. That is surely allowable?

If you are allowed to insult people, then surely others should be allowed to defend them? No?

Originally Posted by khchris(original)

Hip Priest: did you read the whole thread?

Or are you just starting shit with me because your friends have been insulted, even though it was YOUR FRIENDS who started this whole mess?

Yes, I did read the thread. Were you under the impression that it was a 100% serious internet dating thread?

I wanted to defend noumenal and truncated, yes. In the past though, I have defended people with whom I have never spoken a word, or even ones who I had argued with. It's not merely about friends. Although if noumenal and truncated are my friends, then I'm happy about it. What's so bad about that? You have spent years creating and maintaining animosity, you have to accept that sometimes opinions will be directed back at you.

I made the post not merely because of your words, but because of the fact that the yclash somewhat with the thread about 'new starts' that you instigated on the old board and because of your comment on this board about how umpleasant it is to be attacked. There is a certain amount of jarring there, is there not?

I would remind you that this is a deliberately very open forum, where we can all express ourselves. You know that already. In fact, you take advantage of it to state some very harsh opinions both of topics and posters. On most moderated forums, many of your own posts would have been deleted by moderators.

Originally Posted by khchris(original)

I'm pretty disappointed in you Hip Priest. I thought of you with higher regard, but after what you've said, it's very clear that you could care less who's at fault: you're going to attack anyone who attacked your friends, regardless if it was in self defense or if your own friends started in on it.

You have made it clear in the past that you consider my posts to be pretty much irrelevant, and that I am too insignificant for you. So how can you be dissappointed in me?

I could care who's at fault. The fact is that every single person who posts on forums (including yourself, khchris) posts in a thread with something off-topic. To suggest that you do not post off-topic (and indeed abusive) things is wrong.

Again, I didn't hurl any insults - I made some points based upon your comments. As you have done here. I can accept it, this is a forum, I expect disagreement occaisionally. But be honest with me - I did not 'hurl insults'.

Originally Posted by khchris(original)

Go bully someone else Hip Priest.

My entire posting record shows that I am tolerant and unabusive. I have strong opinions on some things, but I accept that they are not everyone's and I always try to handle insults and critcism with measured response (see the 'overrated bands' thread if you don't believe me). I have never bullied anyone, khchris, and I believe that you are using that word because it's one that I myself have used against flaming (including your own) in the past. I dislike bullying intensely, I would not go in for it.

Trust me, if I wished to bully you I would have voted in your 'I am Cool' thread and insulted you there. If I wanted to bully you then I would have taken that chance. In fact, given your insults towards me on the old forum, I could have refused to speak to you or acknowledge your posts on this one, but I felt that the 'new start' idea was a good one.

I'll repeat from my previous post, if I may: I'm sure my opinions don't count, as I'm a newbie, or brainwashed, or part of a gang or a 'musical nazi' or my family deserve to die or (yawn) whatever.