...There were other bands I found vitally interesting: Mars, DNA, The Contortions, Theoretical Girls, and Red Transistor. Those were the ones I gravitated to. I was looking for something different. The Ramones were kind of different but not different enough. Television were definitely not different enough. Talking Heads were different until they got Jerry Harrison in the band, and then they sounded totally normal. When they were a three piece, they were absolutely bizarre...