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Originally Posted by ilduclo

the BIG problem with these articles are that they don't look at how self-serving and exculpatory the people are being. I (used to) work with just the type of folks in the article. And, since I am white and blue eyed and don't talk a bunch, they generally felt free to express themselves. And, what the majority of them wanted was to see a white, male, gun owning society. That and tax cuts. Peel back the onion (I was going to say something else ) and you'll find just that.

it hear what you're saying, and i haven't yet finished the article

but if your particular observations are universal, how come these people voted for kenyan muslim obama who was wary of "guns and religion" instead of white, pro-2nd-amendment john mccain, and white, pro-2nd-amendment mittens?

people vote their perceived self-interest. that perceived self-interest may include some measure of racialism but i'm not buying that it's the end-all-be-all of the self-interest calculus. guns may be a part of it too. but i believe economics is the biggest one.

i remember a story about a 2nd amendment (female) voter somewhere around those parts, in 2008, could have been PA or maybe OH, who was told by her sister to vote for obama because with 4 more republican years she wouldn't have any money to buy guns anyway.