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Originally Posted by Severian
Hang on. I don't want to start a thing, but didn't you and I actually get into a rather lengthy debate about whether or not musical influence or innovation or some such thing could be quantified? Didn't you argue that it could indeed be done?
I don't remember the specifics of the conversation, and looking back I actually think that within a certain sample size, trends could be identified and matched up with first recorded instances of certain musical styles in a way that might hold up to some statistic scrutiny it done properly and over a long period of time. But I'm just seeking clarification here.
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That conversation was about guitar music, where we can identify chord structure, scales, and patterns. for hip hop its a bit different. sure we can identify some of the musical structures of it but in hip hop, at least myself, i don't hear as obvious of patterns of structural influence.
in other words i haven't heard music on the radio use the same kinds of drum sequences, bass lines, or melody patterns from Kanye music.
most of the rap i hear today still sounds more like Dirty South and trap influenced stuff.
i do give credit to Kanye, his music does sound original compared to all the radio rap, but i haven't heard radio rap that to me sounds like kanye.
think how bush sounded like Nirvana