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Old 07.23.2015, 05:25 PM   #7169
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
!@#$! you misunderstand what the concept of "identity" is.. it has nothing to do with history or legacies, its about the style of play, strengths and weaknesses, and other characteristics of SINGLE rosters for any given season. It is based off each individual roster situations. It can fluctuate. Every good team develops an identity together and build success off it.

USMNT has had several "identities" over the years but Klinsmann team has never developed one. I mean, who are they? What do they do consistently? Under Boring Bradley they were a defense first squad that could generate a lot of set pieces and score off that. You knew who would consistently be in the roster and what those players could do. With the near constant roster changes and playing players out of their strongest positions the only identity US seems to have is that they don't have one. They are like a constant surprise, completely unpredictable.

we have words for that already, such as

-playing style

-tactical system

no need to speak "in your own words"

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looks to me usa has a better tactical system now. they play much better. they pass, they build up play, they press. they're just facing 2 tough opponents in this match:

1) an improved battle-tested jamaica fresh from 3 copa américa opponents stronger than any concacafo

2) sheer misfortune. they've missed some unbelievable opportunities and conceded at least one stupid one. shit happens in sports.

on, sorry, that was 3

3) a fat brad guzan

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eta: identity vs. tactical system.

italy in the 60s developed a very strong defensive system known as catenaccio ("deadbolt"). at least since then (probably earlier, i don't know the history of italian football in the 50s) italian football has been known for great defense and great defenders. so that's part of their "identity" and long history. you think "italian football" and you think "good defense"

nevertheless, italians have been using different tactical systems for a long time now, like "zona mista" (still strong defense), and catenaccio is a thing of the past. but see, prandelli had some initial good success in recent years with a more attacking style-- he eventually flopped but that's another story.

tactical systems need to evolve and adapt with the times. klinsi's overhaul was long overdue. can't win a lot waiting for corner kicks-- that's really too much of a passive approach.

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another:

argentina has given the world many skilled players. their passing style is an old tradition, used to be called "la nuestra" ("our way") since probably the origin of time (ha). so that would be their "identity". just like english football and their legendary physical intensity, argentina has great passing and brilliant players.

nevertheless, first argentinian club estudiantes de la plata and then coach carlos bilardo used their "pincharratas" anti-futbol tactics to win respectively the intercontinental cup in 68 and the world cup in 86. yep. the rat-pokers/stabbers. tactics designed to grind down the opponent-- they'd do shit like poke them with needles, i swear. lots of defense, lots of dirty play, some flash of brilliance, but horrible game.

googletranslate this & see

http://www.taringa.net/posts/deporte...ncharrata.html
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