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Originally Posted by demonrail666

I wonder what the odds are now on dortmund qualifying for the Champions League? 8 points off with (I think) 11 games to go. Be an incredible turnaround if they did it.

bayern and wolfsburg are too far gone ahead, and some people like wolfsburg to win the europa league so keep an eye on them as the new german sensation maybe? they beat munich 4-1 recently so they're a serious team. i don't think they'll give up their spot.

however 3rd and 4th place are currently 12 & 8 points ahead respectively. so conceivably yes (even 3rd place). add to it the fact that 5th place schalke seems to be struggling at the moment, and it's... maybe possible.

monchengladbach & leverkusen will fight hard for their spots though. leverkusen just beat atlético madrid 1-0 (i haven't had a chance to watch the recording yet). i haven't paid much attention to monchengladbach, but even without any proper stars (hazard's little brother on loan from chelsea! lol) they're a solid team. so dortmund can get to 5th place but for 3rd or 4th we'll see who blinks first.