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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
this is not about euro anything. i was disputing your notion that mexico's plan was to gum up the works and go for the 0-0. that's not what they tried for-- yes that's what they got in the end, thanks to some good saves, but it was impossible to control for that. mexico obviously tried to win and go on the attack whenever the option was available.
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Yes but there attacks were to rushed and only produced bad shots, they had only 3 shots on goal out of 13... Meanwhile they were playing formations with most of their bodies on their own side of the pitch to thwart Brazil's otherwise more accurate attacks. Brazil took 14 shots, with 8 on goal. Mexico to 13 shots with 3 on goal. If the numbers don't speak for themselves its beyond argument so I see your point, I just agree to disagree. And yes, it is about Euro everything, we're talking about totally different styles of play. Mexico played its game, Brazil played its game, Mexico pulled off something more like an upset even if it was a draw.
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nor playing for a tie, nor trying for a 0, and no shot missed the goal on purpose--those misses were just a lack of quality,
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Those shots lacked quality because they were rushed, often one on one situations, meanwhile Brazil was always offering a more balanced attack,passing the ball around on Mexico's side trying to open up Mexico's defense. Mexico didn't do anything like that, they attacked, but they weren't smart about it, it didn't even look like they were honestly focused on that, considering most of the guys on the pitch spent most of the time camping out on the other side, meanwhile you saw Brazil running up and down on every possession.
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just like brazil's attack was sloppy but *not because they wanted 0-0*. even though obviously the tie feels like a win,
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I never implied Brazil as playing for a draw, but the clear effort towards a more balanced approach on offense they were playing to score, and it showed by how many saves Mexico had to get just to get this draw, meanwhile the goalkeeper for Brazil was looking like he had it on easy street..
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and mexico benefits more from the result, no team on that pitch was focused solely on defense today.
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I disagree, didn't you see Mexico stuck on a 4-2-2-2 formation with those 4 guys almost permanently camping out, or as you say, parking the bus, in front of the their goal daring Brazil to shoot?
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mexico was forced to defend, but if you notice, it was actually brazil that did better when it didn't have the ball-- they were comfortable without possession and their counterattacks were better.
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Brazil was better at every level of the game, but that is expected. Brazil is playing with legitimate intentions to win it all (though their performance as demonrail mentioned leaves us thinking they aren't legitimately contending), Mexico is playing to stay alive as long as possible. Personally, when they took out Dos Santos and Peralta I felt they were throwing the white towel in in regards to their attack. If they didn't play for a draw in the first 80 minutes, it became clear that as you said, Brazil was controlling the game and so in the final minutes they clearly settled for it.
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and no, it's not like basketball. insert winky-winky.
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No its not, in basketball playing like that offensively would have cost Mexico the game by a significant margin, probably a 20 point deficit easily so I'm sure Mexico is glad as fuck they don't play basketball unlike Spain or Argentina who play pretty well and both futbol AND basketball
