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Old 03.15.2013, 12:53 PM   #401
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Originally Posted by tesla69
I'm gonna have to check that out...I think we have to accept Obama is morally as bad as Bush. When they stat running drone assassinations here - and it will probably be privatized as well - they will be able to target you from your cellphone data, or the nanotech markers that are certainly already in use in some manner.

Bradley Manning is but one victim of the Obama regime. The Obama administration has prosecuted more whistle blowers than any other president. Bush claimed the right to capture and torture but he didnít claim the right to kill at will like his predecessor. Even Dick Cheney didnít have a Tuesday kill list meeting.
Manning was held for nearly three years without being charged, and in solitary confinement. He was forced to sleep without clothing or blankets, and was denied visits, even from members of Congress. This treatment has always been considered torture and the fact that it was meted out by Obama shouldnít change the definition.

how easy is it to just say "obama is as morally bad as bush" and pray for a morally untainted superhero to take office, when we all know that will never happen.

the question i want to aggressively put to the anti drone people is this - so do you want to go BACK to a time before drones? do you want to go back to warfare between men on a battlefield? the answer is obviously no. so then you will get half hearted calls for "regulation" etc. etc. and people will just go back to praying that these things are used by the "right" people or the "right" people can stop the bad people using them.

if bush was still in office, you'd have fox news and the rest shouting "TERRORISTS! if you're so against drones you must want the terrorists to win!". Then you'd get right wing radio show hosts making sneering threats disguised as jokes about droning anti war protesters. at least with obama you have an admin that is trying to be transparent and allowing legal investigations and actually cares about justice.

the problem is that once the drones exist, the other guy is going to start building his own. then yours have to get bigger and greater in number.

farming will change because of drones. they are using them to replace the work that would otherwise have to be done by men in tractors. there will be transport drones. you might get someone like amazon using drones as couriers.

the koch bros are hyping up this surveillance drone that will fly above a city and provide panoramic 360 degree footage with the ability to zoom in at something miles away and read the small print off a piece of litter.

the answer is to programme the drones to destroy all of humanity or something i dont fucking know.
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