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Old 02.17.2013, 06:50 PM   #86
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Originally Posted by noisereductions
hahaha.

In fairness a lot of that Pac stuff gets overly dissed. I mean, Pac's Life and Loyal to the Game are pretty bad. But Better Dayz, Until The End of Time and R U Still Down are all pretty damn good collections -- so that's 6 discs of pretty quality material.

Maybe someday we'll see an overground release of the original bootlegs in a box or something.

I do have Better Dayz, R U Still Down, and of course Still I Rise but Until the End of Time is part of those mixes I don't like. To mid-2000s bumpin in the da club shit, not what Outlawz Immortal were doing from 94-96 which is what the rough mixes better reflect. Check out EVERY track from Until the End of Time but on the Makaveli Bootlegs versions and it is the perfect example of what is wrong with the remixed reissues than the leaked originals. Rough mix or not, the originals are so much better its like night and day. I can't honestly imagine Tupac approving of half the beats of the remixes than what was on the originals, as again the originals sound like that almost gothic, spooky, dark rap which was Outlawz Immortal (also think E-40 Element of Surprise era, Kool Keith as Dr Dooom, GraveDiggaz, Bone Thugz N Harmony, The Luniz, Scarface etc etc)..

Maybe Afeni just couldn't accept Tupac for who he really was, a straight gangster. N.W.A and Eazy E were fucking straight gangster, which is why Dre and Cube had to leave, cuz those two ninjas weren't gangsters, they were just rappers. Ruthless Records was about drug dealing and gang-banging, not just making records. DeathRow Records was about drug dealing and gang banging. Tupac joined M.O.B. Pirus. In fact Tupac as Makaveli the Don was part of the new generation of M.O.B., which changed the original meaning of MOB to Money Over Bitches and took over a few new blocks in Eastside Compton. Post-Makaveli MOB is entirely different set than the original MOB from the 1980s, and MOB youngsters still have Pac as their patron saint of sorts. The reality is that while Makaveli was a certified community activist and organizer and was involved directly in the 93 Peace Treaty and the Truce Picnic as well as other mediations, he was also sincerely gang affiliated which was of course his demise. Tupac fell into gang-banging for the same reasons a lot of original Panthers fell into gangs, as a form of penultimate political protest. In some circumstances, folks who are pushed too far by the situation retaliate and get into drug dealing and gang-banging as an alternative life-style. A literal "Fuck your world" and sabotage to the establishment in a truly devastating nihilism. Tupac fell int this surreality. Dead Prez straddle that line. Me, I dig the gangster Tupac mixes, because that is who Tupac was, and it doesn't negate his political or social commentary, if anything it accentuates it with authenticity. I don't think Afeni Shakur could accept that in her idealized remixes which :/
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