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Old 01.05.2013, 12:09 AM   #102
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
ahhh, the gun show....

The truth is that most guns used in crime are gotten illegally. They are not purchased from dealers, or at gun shows. The black market for guns is HUGE

Yes, people go to gun shows and "legally" buy several, then report them missing or stolen or just don't, and them sell them "illegally" to the criminal black market. Further, the ATF reports 30,000 stolen firearms ANNUALLY in the US, that is a lot of potentiality for crime. Lastly, criminals steal them from warehouses, shipping docks, and train freight yards, where there are literally guns by the rail car and shipping container. So the reality is criminals and legitimate people inevitably get their guns from the same exact places. In LA County we've had a wonderful phenomenon, we zoned out most of the firearms retailers, and low and behold our murder and violent crime rates have decreased 600% since 1992. That is because there are less guns to steal from gun shops, the docks, and freight yards. Less guns to sell equals less guns to steal equals less guns on the street to harm and kill, period. This is not ideology, this is the reality of gun-control in Los Angeles over the past 20 years. As guns dried up, crime didn't increase, criminal access didn't increase, quite the opposite, our city and county and region became an unimaginably safer place. When I was growing up in elementary school, there were neighborhoods in Los Angeles with murder and violent crime rates as high as Baghdad or Allepo. Thank the Lord it is not like that anymore, LA is hardly recognizable from the stereotypes of the 1980s and 1990s, and we thank God firstly and gun control secondly. Texas, you should pay attention, I understand your violent crime and murder rates are rising despite all that solid gun ownership
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