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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
how do you know we can get earth "in order" and what does it mean? every time some naive fucker attempts to create a utopia with the very best of intentions, the result is a worse hell than the original. i don't mean to oversimplify this shit, but what if earth is better off with some healthy, messy, strength-inducing chaos?
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Not talking about utopianism, but being realistic doesn't equate to being nihilistic either
Chaos perhaps, but humans have the agency to effect change, either positive or negative, the question we all have to ask ourselves is which? Again, if Kock and Geffen and Bransen want to get together and spend the shitlaods of money they have from mercilessly low taxes to fund cool and geeky science explorations fine, but when the US govt has folks threatening to shut down WIC perhaps we have our values mixed up? Maybe we forget all that in our childlike fascination with the cool science stuff, but that stuff costs money, and in fact, its our money at that. We can get our own house in order while temporarily scaling down our visions for space, and come back to it later. We look foolish if you ask me, spending all this money on space exploration meanwhile Americans are dying of preventable diseases because of lack of healthcare. Oh wait, that is because our cultural values somehow support corporate welfare for geeky scientific projects, but alas, not to care for those very real human needs. Again, science is cool, but my issues is priorities. I am not anti-science, I am not even necessarily against this Mars shit, but private donors haven't been picking up the tab, in fact, they've been making the profits at our expense.