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Old 08.22.2012, 06:58 PM   #100
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Originally Posted by Severian
Burton'a films are not superior at all. Granted, they are beautiful films, and ...Returns was my favorite comic-based movie ever for many years, but they do not stand the test of time. Looking back, Nicholson'a Joker was atrocious, and the story lines for both films are thin and ultimately quite weak.

Tim Burton is a flash filmmaker who cares much more about style than substance. I think he did a great job of helping batman become a more realistic and serious kind of hero, but not even Danny DeVito's (kind of horrifying) Penguin changes the fact that Burton's films are exactly the type of movies that Cronenberg's criticisms actually apply to.

Nolan's films are every bit as human and powerful as anything Cronenberg's ever made. .. in my opinion at least. But what do I know really? I'm biased, because I'm a life long comic fan, and I've been waiting for someone to put together a worthy Batman adaptation my whole life.


Maybe that's what I like about Burton's Batman. It's a comic book movie. It's heavily stylized. The characters are a bit bigger than life. It's a fucking comic book with a masked hero running around in tights fighting crime.


And I don't know that you want to go into the whole plot superiority thing. I find that the worst thing about Nolan's films are his convoluted shitty plots & the best thing about his films are the cinematography (which is where TDK really shined, a long with the soundtrack & Ledger's acting.) Where Inception shined were with the special effects, the music, the art, and the cinematography.


Neither Burton or Nolan really can come close to Dead Ringers or Videodrome, both movies that affected me on a physical level as well as a very deep psychological level. The philosophy and psychology in any Batman movie is pretty kindergarten level, even Ledger's Joker's nihilism.
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