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Old 11.17.2010, 09:29 AM   #215
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yes, it will, but you can't fight against this for the sake of some impossible equality. its as ethically irresponsible to do that as it is for some christian to refuse their child a blood donation because of their primitive superstitions.

as i said before, its pointless to try and fight against it because you are being regressive. you can try to work on the difficult moral and ethical dimensions and try to draw up a code of how we should regulate the technology, but even then, there will be people who flout the rules, or pay to flout the rules.

what people DO NOT WANT TO FACE is the fact that it is very very possible that the human race, under a capitalist system anyway, without sufficient regulation, would genetically engineer themselves into a kind of horrible homogenuous state that either results in their extinction or drastically sets back diversity and the health of the species.

also, the potential for advancement, for the eradication of diseases etc. is astonishing. but when you face up to these possibilities you face the fear people have of their own shallow biological security be threatened by the potential nihilism of "well why bother to make any more humans anyway". a whole spectrum of questions open up that threaten and challenge the ways people see themselves and the imagined value they put in existence. people don't like the face the idea of a human being created for a specific "purpose". like for example if you were some fantasist who wanted to bio engineer a race of humans designed for a specific type of labour.

the obvious counter point is that by refusing to consider these purposes you are not actually leaving it up to "nature" (which doesnt really exist and wants us all dead anyway unless we fight back). like for someone know to pretend they don't have specific purposes in mind for their children is just denial. children are already "bred" in capitalist societies to replace the labour force and grow up to be able to look after their parents and contribute to making money. this isn't how it is officially explained but it's how things are.

because to even face this possibility means to lose all sorts of primitive illusions about our special place in the world. for christians and secularists alike.

but as i say, denial is irrelevant and you can't go back. unless you are some sort of eco terrorist, and i'm sure there will be a whole movement of those aswell.

you have to be able to see nihilism through to the very end, or else you are just projecting a load of false "purposes" and feel good denailisms into the point of human existence. facing up to bio genetics means you have to face up to the purposelessness of your own existence and that's something that threatens people to the extreme when the find themselves unable to properly come up with a good answer.

my own belief is that these technologies should be used to replace humanity, as tools on the process of engineering ourselves OUT of our current reality and into something else entirely, post human, ex human, whatever you want to call it. and i think it would be a greater tragedy if we destroyed them and our capacity to ever use them and were stuck for millenia in some primitive hippie dystopia than it would be if we went completely extinct.
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