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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.24.2006 09:27 PM

Ethiopian Air-Strikes in Central Somalia (didn't I warn y'allaboutthisTHREEWEEKSAGO!)
 
Ethiopia Admits Its Fighter Jets Air Bombed Central Somalia

Shabelle Media Network (Mogadishu)
NEWS
December 24, 2006 </B>
Posted to the web December 24, 2006

By Aweys Osman Yusuf
Mogadishu
- The Ethiopian government has admitted its fighter jets pounded regions inside Somalia. Ethiopian Information Minister Berhan Hailu has admitted the Ethiopian warplanes struck different locations in central Somalia.
The minister said Ethiopia has run out of patience and taken self-defensive measures against the Islamic Courts that administers most central and southern provinces of the country, including the capital Mogadishu.
An eyewitness said he saw eight Ethiopian warplanes taking part in the air raiding. This is the first air bombing and the first open admission by the Ethiopian government of its involvement in Somalia's internal wars.
The fighting is going on four fronts in central and southern parts of Somalia and the exact number of casualties is hardly known.
Experts fear Ethiopia's insolvement in Somalia's war could influence foreign extremists and Ethiopia's rival enemy Eritrea in. Islamists announced on Saturday Somalia was open for Muslim jihadists around the world to come in and wage their holy war in Somalia.
US government accused Islamists of being al-Qaeda linked members. Islamists denied it has links to al-Qaeda or terrorist organizations.
Residents in Baledweyn said about 8 fighter jets have dropped bombs on Jawil and Kala Beer, settlements near the Ethiopian border.
Islamists allege they have seized number of Ethiopian troops in the fighting in southern parts of the country. The claim cannot be independently confirmed.

pulsar 12.25.2006 02:08 PM

Yeah and Ataxia hava an "Ethiopian Song" to be released on their second record in 2007. Recorded in early 2004. Hands down. <img>

Massenvernichtungswaffen 12.26.2006 12:03 AM

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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.27.2006 04:50 PM

meanwhile, over a thousand bodies have been found in the capital alone. thats more then in Baghdad this past week, which shows the scale of violence that Africans are capable of, and the exact reason why the US pulled out of Somalia so quick in the 1990s.

Bastian 12.28.2006 01:27 AM

Let's hope that this will be helpful to prevent a Taliban-style Somalia.

jon boy 12.28.2006 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bastian
Let's hope that this will be helpful to prevent a Taliban-style Somalia.


yeah because bombing people always made them be nice to you afterwards.

Bastian 12.28.2006 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
yeah because bombing people always made them be nice to you afterwards.


And not fighting oppressors has always made them see their wrongs and become peaceloving, tolerant fellows.

jon boy 12.28.2006 10:29 AM

yeah and the only way to fight hate is bomb them?

but do you understand that there are better ways to do things than bomb people? it will only radicalise people more and make them hate.

Bastian 12.28.2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
yeah and the only way to fight hate is bomb them?

but do you understand that there are better ways to do things than bomb people? it will only radicalise people more and make them hate.


In most situations, there are better ways. But how more radicalised can islamist militias become who kill people for watching the godman soccer world cup?

jon boy 12.28.2006 10:45 AM

well i dont think that just blowing them up in the name of fighting oppression is the answer.

Bastian 01.09.2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
well i dont think that just blowing them up in the name of fighting oppression is the answer.


History has proven otherwise.. actually, even recent history has:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...980980,00.html

and:

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD141507

Quote:

In a December 29, 2006 op-ed titled "Somalia: Time for Dhikr and Music" in the Awdal News, Somali journalist Bashir Goth discusses the history of the Union of Islamic Courts in Somalia, and calls on "the people of Mogadishu to reclaim their freedoms and their true religion."
The following is the article in full, in the original English.


Quote:

[..] "Now it is time for the people of Mogadishu to reclaim their freedoms and their true religion. Time to read the Koran with piety and not with politics; time to perform Dhikr in the Sufi Qadiriya style; time to dance in weddings and listen to the music of our late melody queen Magool, which the Islamists wanted to burn. It is time to throw away the Arab head rags; the sign of the shabby dressed Islamists; and time to be proud of our native names, cleansing our ears of the alien Arab noms de guerre of the Islamists. It is time to let our women come out to the sunshine and swim with their children in the lido beach; time to shave the beards, watch cinema, and let our youth revel, sing, dance, and ring in the New Year with Mohammed Suleiman's eternal lyrics '…kii noo hagaagee, noqo loo hanweynyahay.' ('…Be a year that brings us good fortune and high expectations.' Amen."


Indeed. Amen.

jon boy 01.09.2007 12:04 PM

yeah because its really working in iraq isnt it and israel/palestine and east timor and chechnya and lebanon and yugoslavia etc.

history is proving otherwise, i dont think so.

space_monkey 01.09.2007 12:05 PM

Is this a new american war

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.09.2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by space_monkey
Is this a new american war


no. the americans dont have a way to make money of this situation so they are not involved.

jon boy 01.09.2007 02:32 PM

but they did give a sly wink to the ethiopians because they are christian and the air strikes on somalia today propped up their efforts a bit.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.09.2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
but they did give a sly wink to the ethiopians because they are christian and the air strikes on somalia today propped up their efforts a bit.


I was unaware of the US military air strikes on Monday. Let it be known that this is not primarily a Christian versus Islam thing. Ethiopia is split right down the middle between a Christan and Islamic population and has been that way for over a thousand years! And yet historically, there has been more rivalry between Ethiopian Jews (Falasha) and Christians/Muslims rather then Christian against Islam. This is not Palestine. There is no ISLAM vs Christian. In fact, the Jihad declared by the Islamic Courts Union was not against Ethiopians as Christians, or because they are Christians, but rather against the Ethiopian govt regardless of its religious affiliation.


THis was is about stability. Over 25% of Ethiopia's population are Ethnic Somali, and are Somali speaking Muslims. Instability in Somalia, is therefore Instability in Ethiopia, and so the Ethiopians are looking for their best interests. On the streets of Mogadishu, Somalis are not opposed to the Ethiopian troops. They just want the stability of govt, and the freedom to buy and sell. They are Muslim, but they do not support the Islamic Court Union. They just want stablity.

val-holla-ing 01.09.2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bastian
And not fighting oppressors has always made them see their wrongs and become peaceloving, tolerant fellows.


you're serious?

James Blonde 01.09.2007 02:54 PM

Isn't 4th US ship nearing Somalian coast now, James Blonde heard such rumour.

HaydenAsche 01.09.2007 02:55 PM

I am so angry.
I am so at ease.
I feel just like some great big disease.


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