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gualbert 04.04.2009 10:34 AM

Your top 5 five Hitchcock films
 
Here's my list (but it changes frequently):
The Rope
Psycho
Lady Vanishes
The Birds
Rear Window

atsonicpark 04.04.2009 10:44 AM

1. Vertigo
2. Rear Window
3. Frenzy
4. North by Northwest
5. Rope

Bertrand 04.04.2009 10:47 AM

Frenzy - great use of London, actors who are not models - apart from Billie Whitelaw, and so brilliantly shot
Vertigo
Lady Vanishes
Strangers on a Train
Young and Innocent

Sonic Youth 37 04.04.2009 07:42 PM

1. Rope
2. Rear Window
3. Marnie
4. Psycho
5. Vertigo

demonrail666 04.04.2009 08:11 PM

I think I might be one of the only people who isn't that big a fan of Hitchcock. Anyway. Here's my list of 'faves':

1. The Birds
2. Vertigo
3. Psycho
4. The Trouble With Harry
5. Shadow of a Doubt

atsonicpark 04.04.2009 08:15 PM

Well, rather, I'd rather watch the people he inspired, like DePalma and Argento. Not to take anything away from Hitchcock, he was one of the best directors of all time. I just prefer the directors who took his techniques and did crazy shit with them.

demonrail666 04.04.2009 08:24 PM

Although I probably don't quite share your enthusiasm for DePalma (who I don't like at all) or Argento (who I blow hot and cold over) I do see what you mean about Hitch's influence in some ways surpassing his actual movies.

He's clearly brilliant, but i think that's the problem. His films tend to make me think of intricate, perfectly tuned machines, where the components works in complete synchronicity with one another. As such, I can admire his movies, but tend to find them all a bit lifeless. The only one I really like is The Birds, simply because it seems to be his 'loosest'. For that reason I love what, for example, The Coen Brothers did with the film Blood Simple, or David Lynch with Blue Velvet, both of which seemed to take the skeleton of Hitch and then completely open it up and fuck with it, Shaolin necro-style.

atsonicpark 04.04.2009 08:27 PM

You don't like DePalma at all? Hi Mom? Blow Out? Body Double? Sisters? Obsession? Dressed to Kill? Femme Fatale (so underrated!)? Yeah, he has a few stinkers.. but.....

demonrail666 04.04.2009 08:33 PM

OK, fair enough. I do quite like Blow Out, and Dressed to Kill is a great excuse for a wank, and I really like Hi, Mom and Greetings (his two least Hitch-like films). My problem with DePalma in terms of films like Body Double though is that he seems almost overawed by Hitchcock. It's like some undergraduate project in how to make a film as closely like Hitch's as possible. And he seems to pick up on the things about Hitchcock that I'm not that big a fan of in the first place: his taughtness.

EDIT: I keep forgetting that Scarface is a DePalma film, which I re-watched the other day and just thought was phenomenal.

atsonicpark 04.04.2009 08:38 PM

Yeah, Scarface is amazing! I forgot about Greetings.... OH, what about Phantom of the Paradise, the best rock musical ever? How about Carlito's Way? How about the Untouchables? One talented, diverse, amazing director in my eyes. I even love Wise Guys! Let's not discuss Black Dahlia or Bonfire of the Vanities.........

I really love Body Double, it's such an obvious, obvious Hitchcock homage for a lot of it, but it's way dirtier and sleazier and sillier too. It's like if Hitchcock decided to direct a grindhouse film or something and still put all his little stylistic touches on sleaze. Haha.

Derek 04.04.2009 08:44 PM

I'm actually planning to watch Scarface again because I HATED it the first time round. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood.

demonrail666 04.04.2009 09:53 PM

Yeah. I went right off it for years. Then I watched it again, half expecting to hate it and just thought it was great.

demonrail666 04.04.2009 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Yeah, Scarface is amazing! I forgot about Greetings.... OH, what about Phantom of the Paradise, the best rock musical ever? How about Carlito's Way? How about the Untouchables? One talented, diverse, amazing director in my eyes. I even love Wise Guys! Let's not discuss Black Dahlia or Bonfire of the Vanities.........

I really love Body Double, it's such an obvious, obvious Hitchcock homage for a lot of it, but it's way dirtier and sleazier and sillier too. It's like if Hitchcock decided to direct a grindhouse film or something and still put all his little stylistic touches on sleaze. Haha.


Hmm. This is annoying because I'm having to back-pedal like a bastard here. Yep, Phantom of the Paradise is a great movie. Although I can at least partially adhere to my original position by saying that I don't understand the appeal of Carlito's Way at all, and as for The Untouchables ... I think I preferred Bonfire of the Vanities. I mean if you're gonna cock things up, then you may as well really cock them up.

But yeah, on further consideration, maybe I don't dislike DePalma nearly as much as I originally thought.

LifeDistortion 04.05.2009 12:01 AM

Thought we had done a favorite Hitchcock thread before anyways, in no order and based on the ones I've seen:

Notorious
North By Northwest
Rebecca
Rope
Psycho

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 04.06.2009 11:49 AM

Hmmm, let's see. I've seen Psycho, The Man Who Knew Too Much, The Man Who Knew Too Much, North by Northwest, Notorious, Shadow of a Doubt, Strangers on a Train, Vertigo, The Birds, To Catch A Thief, Rear Window, Dial M for Murder, and The Trouble With Harry.

I'd go
1. Psycho
2. North By Northwest
3. Rear Window
4. The Man Who Knew Too Much (Jimmy Stewart version)
5. Vertigo
6. Strangers on a Train
7. Shadow of a Doubt
8. The Man Who Knew Too Much (black and white version)
9. The Trouble With Harry
-everything else I've seen
last. The Birds


I need to watch some of his other movies, I know the 39 Steps is supposed to be awesome.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 04.06.2009 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Although I probably don't quite share your enthusiasm for DePalma (who I don't like at all) or Argento (who I blow hot and cold over) I do see what you mean about Hitch's influence in some ways surpassing his actual movies.

He's clearly brilliant, but i think that's the problem. His films tend to make me think of intricate, perfectly tuned machines, where the components works in complete synchronicity with one another. As such, I can admire his movies, but tend to find them all a bit lifeless. The only one I really like is The Birds, simply because it seems to be his 'loosest'. For that reason I love what, for example, The Coen Brothers did with the film Blood Simple, or David Lynch with Blue Velvet, both of which seemed to take the skeleton of Hitch and then completely open it up and fuck with it, Shaolin necro-style.


Hmmm, I hated the Birds.

gualbert 04.06.2009 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Hmmm, let's see. I've seen Psycho, The Man Who Knew Too Much, The Man Who Knew Too Much.

The first version is kinda cheap, but there's a great scene in a church that makes the film worth watching to me (and it does not appear in the 56 version).

noisereductions 04.06.2009 12:09 PM

1. Vertigo
2-5. Not sure.

Derek 04.06.2009 12:15 PM

Which Hitchcock should I start with? Everyone seems to have a different favourite.

gualbert 04.06.2009 12:19 PM

Blackmail: his first "talkie" (1929)
Very good imo.


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