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nowideau 07.28.2007 06:56 AM

SYR6 and Brakhage
 
Hey folks,

Just curious if anyone knows what Brakhage films SY accompany on SYR6, as well as their playing order. I own the Criterion "By Brakhage" DVD collection and would be interested in getting the SYR disc if it covers some of the films on the DVD. It would be great syncing them together and hearing the music in its original context.

atari 2600 07.28.2007 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hipster_bebop_junkie
I hope this can help you:

These were the films that Sonic Youth improvised to:
* Scenes from Under Childhood: Section 1 (1967) 25 min
* Garden of Earthy Delights (1981) 2.5 min
* The Dead (1960) 11 min
* The Wonder Ring (1955) 4 min
* Dog Star Man, Part II (1960) 6 min
* Birds of Paradise (1999) 3 min
* Cat's Cradle (1959) 6 min



Info taken from:
http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARr...ARsystanb.html


Brakhage + Sonic Youth Prisiminimui

nowideau 07.28.2007 10:02 AM

Thanks a bunch, Atari. I've got three of these. I wonder if that's the playing order.

hirsute_biped 07.29.2007 11:05 PM

i don't have SYR, the brakage collection, or any text of light releases, but it seems pretty awesome to match them up...

TheDom 01.26.2011 01:27 PM

bump

has anyone done this?

atsonicpark 01.26.2011 01:39 PM

No, I have the first brakhage collection (criterion), so I recognize most of those films, does anyone know if they're all on dvd, either in that collection or volume 2? even though it's "not the artists intention", I almost always play brakhage's films wth different music underneath. DOG STAR MAN is my favorite film ever and I've watched it silent twice, but having music underneath REALLY enhances the viewing experience. My way of looking at it is, there's never EVER going to be COMPLETE silence anyway, ules yku;re deaf.

Anyway I will do this soon.

This also reminds me to get BRAKHAGE COLLECTION VOLUME 2. For my birthday!!

SonicBebs 01.26.2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
No, I have the first brakhage collection (criterion), so I recognize most of those films, does anyone know if they're all on dvd, either in that collection or volume 2? even though it's "not the artists intention", I almost always play brakhage's films wth different music underneath. DOG STAR MAN is my favorite film ever and I've watched it silent twice, but having music underneath REALLY enhances the viewing experience. My way of looking at it is, there's never EVER going to be COMPLETE silence anyway, ules yku;re deaf.

Anyway I will do this soon.

This also reminds me to get BRAKHAGE COLLECTION VOLUME 2. For my birthday!!


i'd never come across him before syr6.
and i've just youtubed dog star man ("not the artists intention") and watched prelude.
fucking intense for a silent film. i loved the pace of it, i loved the red clouds and the way he shot them (moving or pulsing) made me think of being in the womb, or looking at light (the sun?) with your eyes shut. It made me think (quite probably because of my connection with him) of sonic youth's abstract music.
but i was mesmorised for the 10 minutes or so, couldn't take my eyes off it. Incredible.
when i have more time i will check out more of his work (and hopefully not ona shitty laptop screen)

atsonicpark 01.26.2011 05:39 PM

type in "Brakhage" to the search and there are two or three brakhage/dog star man tribute threads (started by me heheh), there's lots of information and screens and other interesting things...

what I need to do is make a thread re: "albums to line up with dog star man". DOUBLE LEOPARDS halve maen is a great one.

hipster_bebop_junkie 01.26.2011 06:10 PM

Some other interesting links in addition to those atsonicpark has already mentioned:
  • Legendary Epics Yarns and Fables: Stan Brakhage (Directed by Stephen E. Gebhardt and Robert Fries) (early 1970s)
    9 minutes, Directed by Stephen E. Gebhardt and Robert Fries

    In the early 1970s Stan Brakhage was recorded in a living room. Brakhage makes brief comments about how objects inspire him and why music is an aesthetic error in film, but he spends most of his time talking about how hard it is to speak extemporaneously to the camera.
    http://www.ubu.com/film/brakhage_yarns.html
  • Pauline Kael And Stan Brakhage (1964?)

    Legendary film critic Pauline Kael is captured here in conversation with filmmaker Stan Brakhage. While the tape is incomplete, we do hear Brakhage defend his practice, his epic film DOG STAR MAN, his influences, his search for " a happening in structure". Brakhage proudly declares: "I'm an amateur filmmaker, I make home movies."

    (7" IPS, 1/4" REEL 5", 00:19:32)
    http://ubu.artmob.ca/sound/Anthology...L_AFA_1964.mp3

atsonicpark 01.26.2011 06:17 PM

Oh man, thanks for the Kael/Brakhage!

hipster_bebop_junkie 01.26.2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Oh man, thanks for the Kael/Brakhage!


You are very welcome.

There's a bit more stuff related with Stan Brakhage on UbuWeb. This is what comes up when running a search:
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp_a=sp10042f50&sp_q=%22stan+brakhage%22&sp_p=all &sp_f=UTF-8

I thought i'd post those specific links as i really found very interesting mr. Brakhage's words regarding his art. That interview is actually pretty cool in this aspect. It's a shame it's incomplete, though.

vulva 01.26.2011 08:42 PM

ubu is a wonderful resource for experimental film.


Also, saw text of light live once and it was bomb as fuck.


I miss a lot of people on here, I should post more

scott v 01.26.2011 09:02 PM

I don't think all of Brakhage's work is on DVD just yet, but i think that alot of it is, I do have this now somewhat rare VHS tape that his some of his painted film that does not appear on the Criterion Collection Vol. 1, I need to double check if this VHS has some stuff that included (or not) on the Vol. 2...

noisereductions 01.26.2011 09:04 PM

I always thought SYR6 should have included a DVD of the performance...

scott v 01.26.2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I always thought SYR6 should have included a DVD of the performance...


that would be cool, however i think the trouble would be getting permission from the Brakhage Estate as far as the inclusion of the visuals of his films. its been documented that Brakhage was against the use of audio in conjunction with his films, most but not all were silent and intended to be such. maybe i'm wrong but I would imagine that SY and Lee (for ToL) got special permission to use his work in performance.


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