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Pookie 07.12.2007 08:17 AM

Tintin racist? Racist Tintin?
 
http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/art...124396,00.html

sonicl 07.12.2007 08:19 AM

That's downright stupid. Is The Merchant of Venice going to banned next for stereotyping Jews?

Prisstina 07.12.2007 09:31 AM

oh whatever. i hate idiots so wrapped up in making everything nice to EVERYONE.

i used to love tintin. i have a tintin pillow on my bed right now.

Toilet & Bowels 07.12.2007 10:39 AM

that book is a bit racist, as is tintin in the land of the soviets. it wasn't until a chinese student read that herge was working on a tintin story set in china (tintin and the blue lotus) and asked him not to portray the chinese as crudely as he had portrayed other races and nations in all his preceeding stories that herge started to undertake the thorough research that lead tintin to becoming such a benchmark comic series.

sarramkrop 07.12.2007 10:57 AM

Peter Pan's even worse.

Torn Curtain 07.12.2007 10:59 AM

The book is indeed racist but that only reflects the colonial mentality of the time.

Danny Himself 07.12.2007 11:01 AM

It's not racist, just ignorant. If you can't enjoy Tintin for what it is then there's no point reading it. Herge didn't set out to attack African culture when he wrote the book.

sarramkrop 07.12.2007 11:02 AM

Erm, that's racist.

Rob Instigator 07.12.2007 11:05 AM

I hates me the inferior right wing race

MellySingsDoom 07.12.2007 11:17 AM

Tintin's nowhere near as good as Asterix. That's my theory, and it's the theory that I have, which is mine.

Danny Himself 07.12.2007 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Tintin's nowhere near as good as Asterix. That's my theory, and it's the theory that I have, which is mine.


True, Asterix was more exciting. Even when Tintin was on perilous missions deep behind enemy lines, you were still half-bored with him.

Toilet & Bowels 07.12.2007 10:12 PM

i don't understand this whole tintin vs. asterix thing, people often say they prefer asterix to tinitin but how can you even compare them? they are nothing alike! besides, asterix is pretty boring, you know whatever happens he'll drink some magic potion and save the day.

pbradley 07.12.2007 10:24 PM

The Commission for Racial Equality; defeating modern racism by censoring racism from 70 years ago.

floatingslowly 07.12.2007 10:31 PM

I don't know about Tintin, but RinTinTin is trained to shoot injuns on SIGHT!


 

val-holla-ing 07.13.2007 01:55 AM

jeez. next thing, they'll be saying I'M racist.


oh wait, i am.

Hip Priest 07.13.2007 11:37 AM

The CRE are a baffling organisation. Some of the things they come out with are mind-boggling and intolerant.

This Tintin in the Congo book has its very bad points, especially some of the drawings of black people. But there are good reasons why Tintin shouldn't be banned.

There are lots of Tintin fans who are not racist. This is a fact - I know because I've met some. The book does not cause racism.

The racism in Tintin in the Congo is a product of the age it was written in. The book can be used to show this to children, and if we are to feel anything about the prejudics of a past age then it should be a sense of mocking that they were so commonplace. We shouldn't feel ashamed and embarrassed, because it wasn't us. We certainly shouldn't try to hide history under the carpet.

Hergé, the book's author, spent rather a lot of time apologising for Tintin's imperialist ways. He revised several of his stories (including stories about Soviets and Jews), showing that one can improve themselves through education and experience. What a shame people like the CRE can't see the benefit of such education.

This move is designed entirely to help with the 'guilt' of oversensitive people (so often sensitive on behalf of others, others who think hey are as daft as I do) who cannot stomach foul caricatures but are too embarrassed to explain things properly to their children.

I think Tintin is kind of OK, although I prefer the television series.

ploesj 07.13.2007 12:03 PM

helloo it's a book from the 1930's all black people were portrayed like that, and this stayed the same for years. Tintin is just one of the only ones from that time who is still popular... i don't really see the problem, they mentioned in the article the book has been published before with some text in it about the colonial mind of that time.

Rob Instigator 07.13.2007 12:06 PM

 

Rob Instigator 07.13.2007 12:09 PM

here is some tintin
 


I only know spanish and english. anyone can translate this?

 

o o o 07.13.2007 12:37 PM

tentative translation...


First picture:

"My army, European-style equipped, and well-trained, will easily defeat the Babaoro'm!"


Second picture, from top to bottom (it is supposed to be in broken english/whatever language is used):

"Think that in Europe all little Whites they are same as Tintin..."

"Me found machine of Tintin"

"If he not back in one year and one day, it belongs you!"

"if you not nice, you never be like Tintin!"

"Me never see again bula-matari like Tintin!..."

"This Snowy, what a guy!"


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