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TheMadcapLaughs 10.20.2014 08:47 AM

Sleater-Kinney are Back
 
Yay!

http://pitchfork.com/news/57108-slea...s-lyric-video/

pantophobia 10.20.2014 09:01 AM

Huzzah

evollove 10.20.2014 09:17 AM

Ug. Fucking sellouts.

Savage Clone 10.20.2014 03:30 PM

Looks like my dream world where no more output of theirs would exist has been dashed to pieces.
Goat Rock resurgence here we go.

Bytor Peltor 10.20.2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Ug. Fucking sellouts.


This sort of thing screams SXSW 2015......but they're not playing any shows in Texas, California or anywhere South of Denver.

evollove 10.20.2014 04:32 PM

I was sort of joking. Then I go to their newly re-launched website and see you can get a free song if you sign up...with Facebook!

So now I mean it.

Sell outs. Can't let the legacy be. Gotta cash in on it. UG, I say!

!@#$%! 10.20.2014 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadcapLaughs


YESS!! i'm at work and can't watch the video yet but can't wait

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Ug. Fucking sellouts.


fur sirius or you joking? (does the video suck?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Looks like my dream world where no more output of theirs would exist has been dashed to pieces.


this is the reply to that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantophobia
Huzzah


huzzah indeed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Goat Rock resurgence here we go.


is that you baphomet? YAY GOATS!!

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.20.2014 05:14 PM

No LA show??????
Sure fucking glad I went to Ex-Hex last week and Corin Tucker Band last year and Wild Flag the year before that, or I'd never get my SK fix!

!@#$%! 10.20.2014 05:19 PM

good excuse for a denver trip! plus all the legal goodies.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.20.2014 05:22 PM

You must spread some Goats around before giving them to Savage Clone again.

 

pantophobia 10.20.2014 09:51 PM

there will be plenty more west coast dates to come, they haven't even announced seattle olympia or portland dates yet

Bytor Peltor 10.20.2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
You must spread some Goats around before giving them to Savage Clone again.


 


 

Savage Clone 10.20.2014 10:22 PM

\m/(-_-)\m/

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.20.2014 11:03 PM

The goat is stevie nicks! Corin is just half goat half riot grrl.. also if you listen to Kill My Blues she has toned down the goatness.. to be perfectly honest I dont like the new song particularly but I know the record will be fantastic.. musically carrie and corin have both grown and developed a lot in past 10 yeara since SK so this should be a progression. However, I think Corin's solo music really benefited from adding a bass, so did Mary timony in ex-hex compared to her songs in wild flag. Shit, who am I fuxcking kidding ex-hex kicks so much ass right now im not sure even a new SK record can beat it

!@#$%! 10.20.2014 11:04 PM

watched the video. the song is okay, though the intro & repeating "..." (i don't know what is the name of that musical structure is but you'll hear it) borrows heavily from this relic:

http://youtu.be/NnHu-WLvY5U

which i think is hilarious.

evollove 10.21.2014 03:07 AM

^ Ha! I thought it sounded like shitty Modest Mouse, but i think you're closer to the truth.

My beef:

They used to stand for something.

Now Carrie's a celebrity.

A different band entirely.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.21.2014 12:43 PM

They stopped standing for something on the woods and I agree, I hate celebrity carrie

LifeDistortion 10.21.2014 01:12 PM

Carrie would be a celebrity no matter what music she put out these days, new Sleater-Kinney is still new SK, should she just stop being a musician because of her acting popularity?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.21.2014 01:45 PM

No, she should quit the acting or focus on one at a time and no, portlandia aside she'd hardly be.a.celebrity

LifeDistortion 10.21.2014 01:49 PM

That's muy point though, she did Portlandia, and the popularity of that show has garnered her a new audience, but if music is her first love should she not do music AND Portlandia? Do we make the same demands of people like Tom Waits, Iggy Pop, or even Kim Gordon?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.21.2014 02:07 PM

I admit to irationally resenting carrie's celebrity and I have no good reason to aside from its not my taste..

evollove 10.21.2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
Tom Waits, Iggy Pop, or even Kim Gordon?


Three people I can't imagine ever doing an American Express ad. Maybe that's the bigger issue.

evollove 10.21.2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I admit to irationally resenting carrie's celebrity and I have no good reason to aside from its not my taste..


Because it negates so much of what made SK special.

h8kurdt 10.21.2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Three people I can't imagine ever doing an American Express ad. Maybe that's the bigger issue.


No Iggy Pop was content to do a car insurance advert and Kim Gordon was happy to model for Saint Laurent.

pantophobia 10.21.2014 03:24 PM

Iggy did that add for Chrysler hyping the John Varatos trim on the 300, he also played a Vorta on Star Trek DS9

Thurston I recall composed some instrumental piece for some commercial, HSBC maybe some company like that

frankly there aren't many millionaire rockstars crashing lamborghinis in pools filled with bikini clad vixens anymore, and many can barely afford a living from it anymore so it's not shocking you use what talents you got and cash in

evollove 10.21.2014 04:30 PM

Fair enough. Everyone's a whore, I suppose.

LifeDistortion 10.21.2014 05:12 PM

I just think that back in the 90's about the time of Nirvana the whole "sell-out" thing really seemed to reach its peak. The whole, what signifies "sell-out", and it was different for everyone, being on a major-label, having your music on a movie soundtrack, etc. At some point the musicians just gave in, and realized that in order to keep making music and touring, it just became the name of the game. Whether they liked it or not. Not too many musicians over think it anymore it seems, its just, I want to make music, I want to tour, so either I play the stupid game of having these companies back me, or I simply stop making music and touring.

evollove 10.21.2014 06:27 PM

Maybe. I don't have access to anyone's accounting in the biz. Anyway, there are of course a ton of artists who would never appear in a TV ad (which somehow strikes me as a greater sin than a well-made fashion ad).

Anyway, I return to "SK used to mean something, now they don't."

You can't have lyrics championing the individual--which, if anything, was their "message," or "theme" if you prefer--and suck a credit card company's wang at the same time. You just can't. You have to become something else. That something else might rock, but it'll be a different beast.

I invested too much in a band. That was my fuck-up. I should be old enough to know better. Never mind. Party on.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.21.2014 06:41 PM

Yet Nirvana never did any.corporate advertising now did they ;)

Drjohnrock 10.21.2014 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Maybe. I don't have access to anyone's accounting in the biz. Anyway, there are of course a ton of artists who would never appear in a TV ad (which somehow strikes me as a greater sin than a well-made fashion ad).

Anyway, I return to "SK used to mean something, now they don't."

You can't have lyrics championing the individual--which, if anything, was their "message," or "theme" if you prefer--and suck a credit card company's wang at the same time. You just can't. You have to become something else. That something else might rock, but it'll be a different beast.

I invested too much in a band. That was my fuck-up. I should be old enough to know better. Never mind. Party on.




I very much respect your opinion, evollove. My own viewpoint on these matters used to be similar. But now...

Bands have to have food and shelter like anyone else. Maybe back when bands could supplement their touring income with sales of physical media (records/tapes/CDs) and songwriting royalties such crass commercialism wouldn't have been necessary. But with so many people getting downloads and streaming for free, the extremely high cost of living, the extremely high cost of touring, etc.--well, money has to come from somewhere. I don't think there's anything noble about suffering just so someone like me, who doesn't depend on making music for a living, can feel good about my favorite musicians not being sellouts. Money has to come from somewhere. Not everyone can has the ability or interest in running a recording studio like Steve Albini.

Maybe looking at it from another angle might be helpful. Musicians who do these commercials are perhaps subverting the corporate monster from within the beast's very own belly.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.21.2014 10:08 PM

Citibank commercials are hardly food and shelter

Drjohnrock 10.22.2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Citibank commercials are hardly food and shelter




But the money from such endeavors can certainly help purchase such trivial things.

evollove 10.22.2014 07:57 AM

Drjohnrock, I agree with you in respect to a number of bands, but that's because a number of bands don't really mean anything. They're just there to entertain. I mean, it's not like if Stephen Malkmus did a McDonald's ad, the force of his lyrics would change. They'd be as silly and fun as before.

"The first beast that will appear will entice us with money and fame..." That's a SK lyric that I totally don't buy anymore, at all. That's what's been lost. Used to rouse me, now they are just words.

To be totally fair, however, if I was in the situation, I'm not sure I would say no to a fat corporate check. So there's that.

!@#$%! 10.22.2014 12:29 PM

oh yeah the fucking amex ad. thanks for clarifying it.

i have a huge beef with it in that it attempts to convey the notion that you can craft you identity by shopping, which is, ugh, atrocious. but this is what you'd expect from amex, except that it's ms. portlandia endorsing it with her name & signature. not just amex, but that whole social construct that keeps america engorged.

i have nothing against shopping by the way, it's just the notion that shopping is what gives your life meaning & identity which i find so fucking vexing. you know, like the guy who thinks that he's defined by his "brands." vomit.

to think that carrie brownstein is going to subvert shit from the inside is hilariously supernaive.

having said all that, i'll be happy to change my beliefs for a 1/2 million dollars right now.

Savage Clone 10.22.2014 01:42 PM

If they no longer "stand for something," does that mean that people can finally talk about how irritating their actual musical content is without being labeled Tools Of The Patriarchy?

Asking for a friend.

gmku 10.22.2014 01:56 PM

Ug. Fucking sellouts. So Portlandia.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.22.2014 02:52 PM

The irony of that ad in.the.context.of.the lyric "in between my beauty magazines and my.credit.card bills" is sickening.. but.remember that was only.carrie.not.corin and.janet in those ads

Severian 10.22.2014 06:05 PM

Even at their most hip- the pinnacle of their career... Just before All Hands on the Bad One started turning up at Best Buy & Circuit City, have S-K ever received this much ass kissing from the press.

I can't help but feel that this is a mistake. I have never seen Portlandia, and I've never heard the NPR show, and I've barely kept up with Corin Tucker Band, but I used to attend every S-K show I could.

I feel like they left at the perfect time. I can't see what's to be gained from this, but it does smell a bit like $ to me.

Whatever. Punk isn't even a thing anymore.

Genteel Death 10.22.2014 06:34 PM

What did Sleater Kinney stand for anyway?

Genteel Death 10.22.2014 06:41 PM

 


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