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gast30 12.17.2012 06:30 AM

discussion about time, does time exist?
 
i see time as a more as a tool that is develloped to help the human with certain things

finding food as basic

and from there the use of time was mixed in formulas in science

also as a tool to explain what scientist thought around how the universe moves

time is allways been a theoretical use
a rational tool to help the brain with measuring sertain things

conclusion: time is a creation of humans

makes it does time exist?

no, everthing that exist exist already
billion years before there even was a human

Keeping It Simple 12.17.2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
i see time as a more as a tool that is develloped to help the human with certain things

finding food as basic

and from there the use of time was mixed in formulas in science

also as a tool to explain what scientist thought around how the universe moves

time is allways been a theoretical use
a rational tool to help the brain with measuring sertain things

conclusion: time is a creation of humans

makes it does time exist?

no, everthing that exist exist already
billion years before there even was a human


Time is a society controlling mechanism of corrupt, clandestine governments.

EVOLghost 12.17.2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
conclusion: time is a creation of humans




I see it more as a discovery rather than an invention. Like Mathematics. Does math exist? I mean....it is just a bunch of ideas to explain quantity(mainly) and processes.....

Rob Instigator 12.17.2012 10:27 AM

Scientists have found that time indeed exists, and that it can only flow in one direction.

and they thought this was not what they were gonna find.

Quantum mechanics posited that perhaps particles could travel backwards in time, something about maintaining proper conservation of momentum or something like that.

They did experiments this year which are rather hard to explain in a general sense, but which looked at particles created in high speed collisions. These particles were theorized to travel one way if time was a one way arrow, and another if time was a reversible function of the Universe.

(there are particles that appear to travel backwards in time according to quantum mechanics)

they did the experiments and in every result, the fact that time is a one way dimension, that it only flows in one direction for all the Universe, is what occurred.

This does not explain what time IS actually, but it does prove that it exists, and that it exists in one "direction" toward the future.


strange stuff. should be more about it as they retest and confirm the results.

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 11:26 AM

Yes. It's 10:30am.

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 11:27 AM

Better ask gravity.

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 11:40 AM

Because everything is cyclic, I believe we've had this conversation at least three times.

Rob Instigator 12.17.2012 11:51 AM

time time time
see what's become of me
as I look around
for my possibilities

gast30 12.17.2012 11:59 AM

it is not that easy

cycly is what we know from earth

what happens on or around earth is a microscopic part of the universe

there are other things going on in the universe too

only a few % of the universe is known

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 12:03 PM

A better question would be: "if all particles ceased movement, would time still exist?"

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 12:10 PM

an even better question: what time will the boring people show up in this thread?

Rob Instigator 12.17.2012 12:24 PM

eventually all particles will cease movement. The Universe does not have enough matter to slow down the increasing expansion of itself.

This will cause an ever cooling effect, as all the stuff of the Universe separates, reducing the motion of particles to nothing eventually. It should take maybe a trillion years. Remember the universe is only, as of best estimates, around 14.5 Billion years old.

Plenty of time for humans to travel across our universe's Brane into another universe, if we do not kill ourselves off first.

That is, if M-Theory is correct,

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 01:06 PM

So, assuming that happens, do you believe time stops?

Is time a product of mass or vice-versa?

cjkisaragi 12.17.2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
an even better question: what time will the boring people show up in this thread?


hiya!!!!

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 01:54 PM

Not you (again).

Rob Instigator 12.17.2012 02:00 PM

In absolute zero everything stops.

the quantum foam would stop frothing.

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 03:07 PM

Assuming quantum foam relies solely upon this singular aspect of the multisum.

You should know better. It does not.

So time keeps on tickin'. Do doot do do do.

Rob Instigator 12.17.2012 03:20 PM

quantum foam relies solely on the inherent energy under the planck length of spacetime.

Once everything is spread out enough to reach absolute zero then there would be no energy left to produce quantum foam, even below the planck length.

Long live entropy.

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 03:59 PM

Sir, sub-Plankian space is a delightful place full of holes to ERRYWHERES.

Entropy can eat me. I'm transcendent (and know better).

floatingslowly 12.17.2012 04:08 PM

Ask Schrödinger where his cat's gone. I think it may yet live.


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