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static-harmony 12.06.2006 05:18 PM

All Things Science Here!!!
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/science/07marscnd.html?hp&ex=1165467600&en=f7a408f3b452a00 5&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Evidence is coming out that there is water on Mars.

Also Use this to pu anything scientific here.

atari 2600 12.06.2006 05:22 PM

I read that today also. That's a good topic.

The Reconnaissance Orbiter picked up visual evidence that was analyzed.
Scientists have concluded that the image shows that there was water in the certain spot no more than seven years ago.

I also read that we have been planning to build a permanent station on the moon for awhile, and that NASA has only recently gotten a green light to once again go ahead with the project. The new installation is to be solar-powered.

static-harmony 12.06.2006 05:23 PM

I think it would be wonderful if we put a station in the moon.

static-harmony 12.07.2006 11:49 AM

I was watching Pbs one time and they were talking about something called string theory can anyone explain to me what this was about?

king_buzzo 12.07.2006 11:51 AM

a guy from nasa came to our school and told us about the mars poroject

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.07.2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by static-harmony
I was watching Pbs one time and they were talking about something called string theory can anyone explain to me what this was about?


Basically that quarks, neutrons, protons, electrons, etc are all made of things called "strings" and it is supposed to unify quantum and einstein-newtonian physics.

There's some problems with the theory though. Extra dimensions, massless particles. That sort of stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory


Space exploration is very important. The human race relies on it for survival.

Tokolosh 12.07.2006 02:28 PM

 

Pollen
2004
16 x 17 cm
digital image

"Pollen is an amazingly resilient material. It takes many different forms, it's transported in many different ways, wind, many different vectors.

"Madeline Harley - head of research into pollen at Kew - showed me around all these amazing structures. It was fortuitous in that it's a fantastic subject in many different ways - metaphorically and in terms of its structure. It's pretty essential to life in a way.

"I'm currently collaborating with Madeline in a book about pollen. One chapter is called: 'No flowers - no pollen, no pollen - no flowers'.

"This tulip pollen grain was photographed on a scanning electron microscope and magnified 4500x and subsequently colour enhanced through Photoshop."

Rob Kesseler

blastscenealibi 12.07.2006 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
I read that today also. That's a good topic.

The Reconnaissance Orbiter picked up visual evidence that was analyzed.
Scientists have concluded that the image shows that there was water in the certain spot no more than seven years ago.

I also read that we have been planning to build a permanent station on the moon for awhile, and that NASA has only recently gotten a green light to once again go ahead with the project. The new installation is to be solar-powered.


Awesome!

Let's beat Iran and North Korea to the Moon!

static-harmony 12.08.2006 06:01 PM

breast milk is good for you.

Better_Than_You 12.08.2006 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by static-harmony
I was watching Pbs one time and they were talking about something called string theory can anyone explain to me what this was about?


I think I saw the same thing as you. Was it the one (and I might be saying this wrong) where some scientific site got put up where they tried to fuse two atoms together?? Or something like that?? Its a really foggy memory, but I think we're talking about the same thing.

static-harmony 12.08.2006 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Better_Than_You
I think I saw the same thing as you. Was it the one (and I might be saying this wrong) where some scientific site got put up where they tried to fuse two atoms together?? Or something like that?? Its a really foggy memory, but I think we're talking about the same thing.


I can't remember about that.

static-harmony 12.10.2006 12:20 AM

Jupiter's storm

Inhuman 12.10.2006 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by static-harmony


haha, in Scientology they're strictly against feeding babies milk, but rather have to give them a special formula that's proven to be bad for them

krastian 12.10.2006 01:53 AM

Snow comes in the winter.

Alex's Trip 12.10.2006 01:57 AM

Not where I live. :(

krastian 12.10.2006 02:18 AM

Yeah, that would suck......I couldn't even imagine it. I love the cold. Santy needs some snow.

Alex's Trip 12.10.2006 02:54 AM

I got excited because it started raining. I felt stupid.

krastian 12.10.2006 02:55 AM

He he.

Tokolosh 12.12.2006 06:01 AM

 


Ebola Killed Thousands of Gorillas
Associated Press

Dec. 7, 2006 — Recent outbreaks of ebola among people in Africa also killed thousands of gorillas, animals already threatened by hunting, a new study reports.

Outbreaks in Congo and Gabon in 2002 and 2003 killed as many as 5,500 gorillas and an uncounted number of chimpanzees, a research team led by Magdalena Bermejo of the University of Barcelona in Spain reports in Friday's issue of the journal Science.

While conservationists had raised concern about gorilla mortality previously, Bermejo's study provides an estimate of how many died in the epidemic.

"Add commercial hunting to the mix, and we have a recipe for rapid ecological extinction," the researchers wrote. "Ape species that were abundant and widely distributed a decade ago are rapidly being reduced to a tiny remnant population."

Ebola hemorrhagic fever is marked by fever, headache, joint and muscle aches, sore throat and weakness, followed by diarrhea, vomiting, stomach pain — and many suffer internal and external bleeding.

The researchers began studying gorillas in the region in 1995 and by 2001 were focusing on 143 animals who had become accustomed to having people around.

In 2002, ebola flared in among people in the region, killing dozens, and 130 of the gorillas in the study also perished. The researchers turned their attention to another group of 95 gorillas, but a 2003 ebola outbreak killed 91 of those animals.

That prompted the team to analyze the regional pattern of gorilla deaths and they concluded the disease spread primarily from gorilla to gorilla starting in the north and moving southward through the region. They concluded that at least 3,500 gorillas died in the outbreaks and possibly as many as 5,500.

They also found evidence of a large number of chimpanzee deaths but said they didn't have enough evidence to make an estimate of the total.

Tokolosh 12.12.2006 09:46 AM

 


The Vadoma, also Wadoma (singular Mudoma) are a tribe living in the west of Zimbabwe, especially in the Urungwe and Sipolilo districts on the Zambezi river valley. They have few contacts with the Bantu majority.
A substantial minority of this tribe has a condition known as ectrodactyly in which the middle three toes are absent and the two outer ones are turned in, resulting in the tribe being known as the "two toed" or "ostrich footed" tribe. This is an autosomal dominant condition resulting from a single mutation on chromosome number seven. It is reported that those with the condition are not handicapped and well integrated into the tribe. Indeed it may help in tree climbing. The Kalanga of the Kalahari desert also have a number of members with ectrodactyly, and may be related.
These Vadoma, known as the "ostrich people" or the "two-toed tribe," are a popular example of the genetic effects of small population size on genetic defects and mutation. Due to the Vadoma tribe's isolation, they have developed and maintained ectrodactylyl, and due to the comparatively small gene pool, the condition is much more frequent than elsewhere.

nomadicfollower 12.14.2006 06:07 PM

Birds May Refine Their Songs While Sleeping

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten.../282/5397/2163

(a '98 article, a little out of date, but interesting nonetheless)



Hmm...weird article Tokolosh..

nomadicfollower 12.20.2006 11:13 AM

Bump. This is to good of a thread to let die.

Moths Drink the Tears of Sleeping Birds
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ng-birds-.html

Quantam Computer? (dissapointingly short)
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...ur-breath.html



(thanks to Hip Priest who led me to this site, which I frequently visit and enjoy)

SynthethicalY 12.25.2006 04:55 AM

How our solar system will die.

SynthethicalY 12.26.2006 07:14 AM

Animals are liars

Hip Priest 01.03.2007 07:22 PM

The DNA so dangerous it does not exist

* 03 January 2007
* From New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues.
* Linda Geddes


Could there be forbidden sequences in the genome - ones so harmful that they are not compatible with life? One group of researchers thinks so. Unlike most genome sequencing projects which set out to search for genes that are conserved within and between species, their goal is to identify "primes": DNA sequences and chains of amino acids so dangerous to life that they do not exist.

"It's like looking for a needle that's not actually in the haystack," says Greg Hampikian, professor of genetics at Boise State University in Idaho, who is leading the project. "There must be some DNA or protein sequences that are not compatible with life, perhaps because they bind some essential cellular component, for example, and have therefore been selected out of circulation. There may also be some that are lethal in some species, but not others. We're looking for those sequences."

To do this, Hampikian and his colleage Tim Anderson, also at Boise, have developed software that calculates all the possible sequences of nucleotides - the "letters" of DNA - up to a certain length, and then scans sequence databases such as the US National Institutes of Health's Genbank to identify the smallest sequences that aren't present. Those that don't occur in one species but do in others are termed "nullomers", while those that aren't found in any species are termed primes.

Hampikian's team is deliberately searching for the shortest absent sequences in order to minimise the possibility that absent sequences are missing simply due to chance. So far they have found 86 sequences of 11 nucleotides long that have never been reported in humans.

They have also identified more than 60,000 primes of 15 nucleotides in length and 746 protein "peptoprime" strings of five amino acids that have never been reported in any species. "These represent the largest possible set of lethal sequences," says Hampikian, who expects the numbers to shrink as more sequence information is added to the database. He is presenting his results at the Pacific Symposium on Biocomputing in Maui, Hawaii, this week.

Whether these sequences have any biological significance in living organisms is not yet known - the next step is to test 20 of the peptoprimes in bacteria and human cells to see whether they have any effect such as causing death or provoking an immune reaction.

Hampikian believes the applications of his work could be wide-ranging. He has already received a $1 million grant from the US Department of Defense to develop a DNA "safety tag" that could be added to voluntary DNA reference samples in criminal cases to distinguish them from forensic samples. Such tags would not necessarily have to consist of lethal sequences, but could be based on primes that would be easy to detect using a simple kit.

Further down the line there is the possibility of constructing a "suicide gene" to code for deadly amino acid primes. It could be attached to genetically modified organisms and activated to destroy them at a later date if they turned out to be dangerous, Hampikian suggests.

compulsive diarrhea, jico 01.03.2007 07:26 PM

spiders on drugs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc
In the 1960s, Dr. Peter Witt gave drugs to spiders and observed their effects on web building.

finding nobody 01.31.2007 10:12 PM

Nova rules!
I reccomend this episode
part 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=poINyvCN3...elated&search=
part 2http://youtube.com/watch?v=GVeW-AbDo...elated&search=
part 3http://youtube.com/watch?v=UYA2XuwL_...elated&search=
part 4http://youtube.com/watch?v=jAK-q6giR...elated&search=
part 5http://youtube.com/watch?v=XPPWTEa4e...elated&search=

Pax Americana 02.01.2007 01:01 AM

Fuck science. Let's teach kids intelligent design!



C'mon, some things are complicated... so....

THERE'S A GOD!!!

I mean, duh.

Fucking science.

Tokolosh 02.07.2007 01:55 PM

Everything you always wanted to know about nanotechnology...
But were too afraid of quantum spookiness to ask.
By Alan H. Goldstein

Rob Instigator 02.07.2007 02:00 PM

science rules all

Hip Priest 02.07.2007 02:01 PM

Atoms function as light-trappers and transporters

* 18:00 07 February 2007
* NewScientist.com news service
* Tom Simonite

A pulse of light can be stopped, transported, and restarted again using a cloud of super-cold atoms, US researchers have shown. The technique could ultimately be used for advanced computing devices or gravity detectors.

The experiments demonstrate physicists' increasing ability to manipulate light. Being able to control it in this way could be useful for optical or quantum computers, the team suggests.

"The first time I read this paper, I didn't believe it," says Michael Fleischhauer, a theoretical physicist at the University of Kaiserslautern in Germany. "Even though theory tells us it should be possible, actually doing it is something else."

Naomi Ginsberg, Sean Garner and Lene Hau of Harvard University, US, used a method first developed in 2001 to imprint a pulse of laser light onto a collection of sodium atoms cooled to just above absolute zero. (These sodium atoms were a form of matter known as a Bose–Einstein condensate – (see Creation of new state of matter takes Nobel Physics Prize.)

When the pulse hits the atoms its features are transferred into small oscillations of positive and negative charge. These oscillations are short-lived, but a control laser can be used to turn them into longer-lasting spin states in some of the atoms.

When the control laser is switched off, the atoms drift due to recoil from its beam, carrying the information from the original pulse with them. Previous experiments have shown that turning the control laser back on, before the atoms have drifted too far, allows the light pulse to be recovered.

Ginsberg and colleagues positioned a second Bose-Einstein condensate 160 micrometres away from the first. They allowed excited atoms from the first condensate to drift over, then hit them with the control laser. The original light pulse is reconstructed – a process that depends on the presence of both excited and unexcited atoms.

This is the first demonstration of one of the basic statements of quantum mechanics, called "indistinguishability", explains Fleischhauer. In the Harvard experiment, the indistinguishable nature of atoms in the two Bose-Einstein condensates allows the original light pulse to be recovered. The quantum waveform is the same whichever cloud the atoms inhabit.

The experiment "points to a number of avenues in classical and quantum information processing", write the Harvard team in the journal Nature. "As a messenger atom pulse that embodies the incident light travels in free space it can be independently trapped – potentially for minutes".

Fleischhauer agrees: "You can imagine a network in which photons are used to transfer information, before that information is stored in atoms."

He also told New Scientist that it might even be possible to transport single photons of light using single atoms. "That would be very impressive to see and might allow more powerful information processing," he says.

Hip Priest 03.01.2007 04:43 PM

Brilliant story:

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth

Scientists scanning the deep interior of Earth have found evidence of a vast water reservoir beneath eastern Asia that is at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean.

The discovery marks the first time such a large body of water has found in the planet’s deep mantle.

The finding, made by Michael Wysession, a seismologist at Washington State University in St. Louis, and his former graduate student Jesse Lawrence, now at the University of California, San Diego, will be detailed in a forthcoming monograph to be published by the American Geophysical Union.

The pair analyzed more than 600,000 seismograms—records of waves generated by earthquakes traveling through the Earth—collected from instruments scattered around the planet.

They noticed a region beneath Asia where seismic waves appeared to dampen, or “attenuate,” and also slow down slightly. “Water slows the speed of waves a little,” Wysession explained. “Lots of damping and a little slowing match the predictions for water very well.”

Previous predictions calculated that if a cold slab of the ocean floor were to sink thousands of miles into the Earth’s mantle, the hot temperatures would cause water stored inside the rock to evaporate out.

“That is exactly what we show here,” Wysession said. “Water inside the rock goes down with the sinking slab and it’s quite cold, but it heats up the deeper it goes, and the rock eventually becomes unstable and loses its water.”

The water then rises up into the overlying region, which becomes saturated with water [image]. “It would still look like solid rock to you,” Wysession told LiveScience. “You would have to put it in the lab to find the water in it.”

Although they appear solid, the composition of some ocean floor rocks is up to 15 percent water. “The water molecules are actually stuck in the mineral structure of the rock,” Wysession explained. “As you heat this up, it eventually dehydrates. It’s like taking clay and firing it to get all the water out.”

The researchers estimate that up to 0.1 percent of the rock sinking down into the Earth’s mantle in that part of the world is water, which works out to about an Arctic Ocean’s worth of water.

“That’s a real back of the envelope type calculation,” Wysession said. “That’s the best that we can do at this point.”

Wysession has dubbed the new underground feature the “Beijing anomaly,” because seismic wave attenuation was found to be highest beneath the Chinese capital city. Wysession first used the moniker during a presentation of his work at the University of Beijing.

“They thought it was very, very interesting,” Wysession said. “China is under greater seismic risk than just about any country in the world, so they are very interested in seismology.”

Water covers 70 percent of Earth’s surface and one of its many functions is to act like a lubricant for the movement of continental plates.

“Look at our sister planet, Venus,” Wysession said. “It is very hot and dry inside Venus, and Venus has no plate tectonics. All the water probably boiled off, and without water, there are no plates. The system is locked up, like a rusty Tin Man with no oil.”

Rob Instigator 03.01.2007 04:45 PM

I read about this. pretty crazy stuff. Imagine if the whole thing collapsed above this ocean and the continent sank under it? shiiiiiit. talk about atlantis!

Tokolosh 03.01.2007 06:59 PM

That's unbelievable! A very interesting read. Thanks.

floatingslowly 03.01.2007 08:52 PM

say hello to the Big Bang....

Schwarzschild wormhole

 

The Schwarzschild metric admits negative square root as well as positive square root solutions for the geometry.

The complete Schwarzschild geometry consists of a black hole, a white hole, and two Universes connected at their horizons by a wormhole.

The negative square root solution inside the horizon represents a white hole. A white hole is a black hole running backwards in time. Just as black holes swallow things irretrievably, so also do white holes spit them out. White holes cannot exist, since they violate the second law of thermodynamics.

General Relativity is time symmetric. It does not know about the second law of thermodynamics, and it does not know about which way cause and effect go. But we do.
The negative square root solution outside the horizon represents another Universe. The wormhole joining the two separate Universes is known as the Einstein-Rosen bridge.

SynthethicalY 03.10.2007 01:31 PM

http://www.livescience.com/scienceof...a_storage.html

Rob Instigator 03.12.2007 02:08 PM

jupiter rotating, from close up

SynthethicalY 03.16.2007 03:49 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/0...rss_topstories

There is ice in the south pole of Mars.

Massenvernichtungswaffen 03.17.2007 12:37 PM

now this is a quality thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_holes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_holes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_horizon

SynthethicalY 03.29.2007 03:45 PM

Dinosaurs extinction irrelevant to mammals evolution.


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