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fugazifan 05.16.2010 04:39 PM

i was arrested at again at a protest last week- heres what i wrote about it
 
it was published in the official sheikh jarrah (neighborhood in east jerusalem where we are struggling to stop more jewish settlers from taking arab houses and to give back the arabs whose houses have already been taken) blog.
a lot has transpired this past week.
i advise going through some of the other posts in the blog but here is what happened on jerusalem day last week.
and i will give a brief intro to what jerusalem day is.
jerusalem day celebrates the union of jerusalem in 67, ie the conquering of the old city/western wall, and the consequent illegal annexation of east jerusalem as an official part of israel, an annexation that has not been recognized by any country in the world. in fact israel is the only country whose capital is not recognized by any other country.
since then jerusalem has been known as a unified city, but the facts are that it is not. while west jerusalem (the jewish part) continues to thrive and gain international acclaim and tourism, east jerusalem is a complete slum. over 30% of jerusalem's some 800,000 residents live in the east part, but east (or the arab parts of east jerusalem) receive only 10% of the cities funding.
there has never been any urban building plan for east jerusalem, in the 43 years that israel has conquered it. that means that most of the houses have no real sewage system. in addition the municipality because of the intentional lack of urban plans, do not let any arabs build houses. this results in illegal house building which results in regular house demolitions.

in a country that has a mandatory education until the age of 17 i think, there is a lack of over 1000 classrooms in east Jerusalem. i believe that the high school dropout rate is over 50% (but im not sure)

these are just a few facts on how jerusalem is not unified. and for that reason we protested the unification holiday last Wednesday. and for that reason i was arrested.
as i promised earlier, here is my somewhat long report of that day.

http://www.en.justjlm.org/?p=109

Lurker 05.16.2010 04:45 PM

That's awful...

space 05.16.2010 05:37 PM

fugazifan gives me faith in humanity.

Keeping It Simple 05.16.2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by space
fugazifan gives me faith in humanity.


fugazifan is a poseur. :rolleyes:

space 05.16.2010 05:45 PM

whatever you say, scooter. :)

breligion 05.16.2010 05:57 PM

Thanks, fugazifan. It was a good read.

Rob Instigator 05.17.2010 09:52 AM

keep up the good work. stay safe

hevusa 05.17.2010 10:43 AM

WTF!?!
Fucking anti-semitic bullshit... and you guys are supporting it??

Fugazi fan... why don't you leave the Jewish holy land and leave the Jews alone??? That would fucking end the problem right there.... the problem of YOU being on JEWISH holy land.
Or just fucking set off an A-Bomb in the area and get it over with.... because the rest of the world is fucking tired of the constant religious BULLSHIT that is spewing from every pore on your bodies.

GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF!!

space 05.17.2010 10:49 AM

you make yr computations based upon limited data, and are doing yrself a disservice by doing so.

do you know that fugazifan IS jewish? do you know that you suggested that he nuke his family because YOU are sick of "constant religious BULLSHIT"?

does more bullshit ever help fight bullshit? I don't believe so.

what mr fugazifan cares about is PEOPLE and the way they are being mistreated. does being sympathetic to the arabs in Jerusalem make one an anti-semite? is disagreeing with a government's action a disagreeance with God? I think not.

maybe you should take yr own advice, good sir, and get the fuck over yrself (or at least try to make less hostile assumptions).

good day.

note: so much for faith in humanity.

hevusa 05.17.2010 11:00 AM

If fugazifan is Jewish it makes no fucking sense what he is doing...
Why the fuck would you people think it is appropriate for Arabs to be living on Jewish holy land??? It is not and Fugazifan is supporting the BULLSHIT that is adding fuel to the fire.

Fucking stupid shit.

ploesj 05.17.2010 11:01 AM

i fully support you elie, go you!

ploesj 05.17.2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
If fugazifan is Jewish it makes no fucking sense what he is doing...
Why the fuck would you people think it is appropriate for Arabs to be living on Jewish holy land??? It is not and Fugazifan is supporting the BULLSHIT that is adding fuel to the fire.

Fucking stupid shit.


um..

israel was assigned to the jewish people after world war two, the people who did 'forgot' some people already lived there. i don't know about the rest of the world, but in my country an expression to talk about the jewish is 'the people with no country'.

if there were people living there, there is absolutely no reason to chase them away, religion or not.

space 05.17.2010 11:04 AM

next questions:

how loud would you cry if bulldozers came and leveled yr house (but not those around you)? oceans of tears, I'm sure.

next...

how loud would you cry if those same bulldozers passed by yr house in favor of the house next door? not a peep. maybe they even "deserved it"? maybe, instead of bulldozers, they should have used a nuke?

---

did you know that a hallmark of intelligence and evolved behavior is being able to care about others outside of yr internal system? going beyond racial, political and genetic ties, and caring about someone you do not know, or maybe even do not like, is a sign of GREATNESS.

crawl up from the primal slime. the view is spectacular from here.

space 05.17.2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
Fucking stupid shit.


I pray that you are simply ignorant and not as fucking stupid as you sound right now.

en boca cerrada no entran moscas, cabron.

hevusa 05.17.2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ploesj
um..

israel was assigned to the jewish people after world war two, the people who did 'forgot' some people already lived there. i don't know about the rest of the world, but in my country an expression to talk about the jewish is 'the people with no country'.

if there were people living there, there is absolutely no reason to chase them away, religion or not.



umm... Jerusalem and the surrounding land is where the JEWISH messiah, you may have heard of him, Jesus operated. It is clearly the birthplace of Judaism and is Jewish holy land. To expect people that generally hate Jews to live there is FUCKING RETARDED.

If fugazifan is a Jew working to keep non Jews in the Jewish holy land he has fucking lost his mind and should be arrested at every opportunity possible.

Lurker 05.17.2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
umm... Jerusalem and the surrounding land is where the JEWISH messiah, you may have heard of him, Jesus operated. It is clearly the birthplace of Judaism and is Jewish holy land. To expect people that generally hate Jews to live there is FUCKING RETARDED.

If fugazifan is a Jew working to keep non Jews in the Jewish holy land he has fucking lost his mind and should be arrested at every opportunity possible.



What you're suggesting is a bit like saying "I used to live in that house 20 years ago, I think I'll just go in and kick out the people living there now and just move back in". Of course this situation is not quite the same (there's no analogy for immigration in housing), but basically the Israelis don't have the right to do the sort of thing that fugazifan was protesting against. They still have right to be there though.

hevusa 05.17.2010 11:19 AM

Why wouldn't the Israelis have the right to kick people that basically want to see them dead to the curb??? That makes no sense Lurker...
there will be no peace with Arabs on Jewish holy land EVER.

Lurker 05.17.2010 11:20 AM

If the Palestinians started the hostility, unprovoked, then maybe you have a point. But I don't know enough about so I'm going to keep my mouth shut now.

ploesj 05.17.2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
umm... Jerusalem and the surrounding land is where the JEWISH messiah, you may have heard of him, Jesus operated. It is clearly the birthplace of Judaism and is Jewish holy land. To expect people that generally hate Jews to live there is FUCKING RETARDED.

If fugazifan is a Jew working to keep non Jews in the Jewish holy land he has fucking lost his mind and should be arrested at every opportunity possible.


i didn't say they can't live there. but why do they have to live there ALONE?
i live in a city where 164 different nationalities live together, sometimes with a struggle, but we usually get along. we accept the fact that the population will never be one race or religion, enjoy the differences, learn some new things and get on with our lives.

space 05.17.2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
should be arrested at every opportunity possible.


 


maybe fugazifan needs to be dragged through the stations as well, huh?


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