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joe11121 02.15.2009 05:30 PM

JC is one of my favourite SY songs, the rest of the album is pretty good too. Some is garbage though

deflinus 02.15.2009 05:39 PM

probably the least listened to album of theirs. thurston should of just added genetic in that album. it definitely would of saved it. and i dont understand why everyone likes 100% so much. its good but not great.

wish fulfillment is one of my favorite lee songs of all time

Derek 02.15.2009 06:02 PM

...worst SY album after Experimental Jetset

Death & the Maiden 02.16.2009 05:20 AM

My second SY album. I quite liked it when I got it, but not so much now. I prefer it to Goo, but Dirty doesn't seem to have any classic tracks (Tunic, Mote, Titanium Expose) like Goo does.

Rob Instigator 02.16.2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
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It would have been a much stronger album if Shoot, Creme Brulee, Chapel Hill, Youth Against Fascism, and Nic Fit were taken off though.

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yr fucking crazy

shoot, creme brulee chapel hill Youth against and Nic fit are fucking AWESOME. youth against is straightforward singing with some of the greatest skronk riffin ever.

chapel hill makes me wistful and emotional! shoot is a fucking bhypnotic crescendo.

Rob Instigator 02.16.2009 09:53 AM

Dirty has wish fulfilment.
Swinsuit Issue
JC
fuck yeah


no one ever mentions how awesomne disappearer is on GOO. love that fucking song. great video too.

greedrex 02.16.2009 01:02 PM

excellent LP with just a couple of downers (Cremebrulée, they should have put Generic instead, but that's history).
I think i can say it's my least favourite of all their regular LPs but it still rocks and the songwriting is top of the pops. pun intended.

EVOLghost 02.16.2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joe11121
JC is one of my favourite SY songs, the rest of the album is pretty good too. Some is garbage though


Definitely my favorite off the album. Kim sounds awesome and the lyrics are equally awesome.

waltermcphilp 02.17.2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek
...worst SY album after Experimental Jetset


i like both of these albums. that is all.

barnaclelapse 02.17.2009 10:21 AM

I'll admit it isn't quite as amazing as I thought it was the first time I heard it, but this is still very much an album I like to pull out once in a while and listen to.

Wish Fulfillment and Swimsuit Issue are still two of my favorites.

Derek 02.17.2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by waltermcphilp
i like both of these albums. that is all.

I think they're bad. Not just bad by SY standards but... bad.

[Sandbag] 02.17.2009 10:46 AM

i love this album. the production is alright.. i'm not gonna say it's great but i do think it fits the songs... guitars are paired in left and right speakers... it sounds easy and powerful... i dont know if a more messy or noisy production would serve these songs.

the structure in 'chapel hill' and 'sugar kane' is just genious... it starts, then goes into the verse, chorus, verse, chorus structure and then a middle part + solo that is just so fantastic and different from the rest of the song melodies that when the verse kicks in again you can't believe it's the same song... as for the other songs.. theyre all 10/10

im glad they made an album like this and im glad i can enjoy this as much as lets say nycg&f or any SYR

joe11121 02.17.2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
Definitely my favorite off the album. Kim sounds awesome and the lyrics are equally awesome.


Oh yes! I love the lyrics on JC, definitely my favourite Kim has ever written. It's fantastic, although it is a terribly sad song, dedicated to Joe Cole. 100% was also dedicated to him.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 02.17.2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
BY FAR their worst album. Boring, generic, predictable, plodding, sub-grunge bullshit. Full of lame riffs, uninteresting moments, and the slickest production (in a bad way.. drum samples!) ever. Just embarassingly bad. The worst moments that weren't on Goo. "wish fulfillment" is a nice enough song, and "Chapel hill" is one of the few sy songs with a guitar solo (and it's surprisingly good -- and i hate guitar solos!). all in all, it's just too long and hard to listen to. some girl tried to get me to buy this instead of confusion is sex, my first sonic youth album -- can you IMAGINE if this was someone's first SY album?! damn...

Just a very, very unfortunate album.


haha, Dirty was my first SY album.
I really like it.
And Purr is great, in my opinion.

Rob Instigator 02.17.2009 10:34 PM

dirty rules.

samuel 02.17.2009 11:54 PM

I don't know why, but I can't get into Youth Against Fascism. Every other song, I like. As for the album as a whole, I would have enjoyed it more if they left out:

Swimsuit Issue - The ending is cool. The music is cool. I just think the lyrics in the beginning are lacking.

Youth Against Fascism - I just can't get into it.

Nic Fit - It doesn't really add anything to the album.

Purr - I love the breakdown in the middle, especially the harmonics, but I think it's a pretty boring song overall.

Minus those four and add:

Genetic & The Destroyed Room

That would have made the album perfect for me. It's still really, really good though.

uhler 02.18.2009 01:08 AM

yeah their worst album. there's something about it i don't like. maybe it's the sonic youth trying to play grunge sound of it. i really like "nicfit" (mostly because i love the original) and "jc"

Rob Instigator 02.18.2009 09:48 AM

what "grunge?" you've been brainwashed. there was no "grunge". all sonic youth was trying to do was make a very chunky sounding rock sonic record, hence the joke name of "dirty" to amke fun of the wyhole "grunge" crap. "grunge" was a fashion fad . of all the bands labeled "grunge" the only one that the connotations of that name fit is Mudhoney.

every other one was more stoner rock, heavy metal, classic rock, a combination of all the above.

the mudhoney rules all and dirty rules all!!!!!!

joe11121 02.18.2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by uhler
i really like "jc"


JC is amazing


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