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chuck norris 08.21.2006 02:36 PM

Where are the british female singers?
 
Why are there so few british female singers/musicians? I have been thinking about this for a days now.

I thought of P.J. Harvey, Annie Lennox, Kate Bush. And then Spice Girls, Sugababes. And Elastica, Echobelly.

But where is the british Suzanne Vega, Joan Baez, Karen Carpenter, Joni Mitchel, Courtney Love, Kim Gordon, Laurie Anderson, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Christina Aquilera, Billie Holiday?

Great Britain produced some of the finest music ever (Beatles, Stones, Bowie, Queen, Smiths, Stone Roses, Happy Mondays), but it's all men. Where are the ladies???

Glice 08.21.2006 02:43 PM

It's a very good question actually. I'd never really considered it before. You forgot Sleeper, but it's a bit grabbing at straws.

We've got Lady Sov, MIA and you won't find a city without its fair share of Annie diShit-o alikes. There's plenty of the stuff you're asking for, but most of it is pretty marginal and not very good. In terms of local scenes, I can think of loads of the sort of ladies you're after, but no-one of any substance. Still, we have got MIA, and she's better than everyone else (apart from Diamanda, obviously).

sonicl 08.21.2006 02:45 PM

There's loads of British female singers, but they're all doing middle-of-the-road singer-songwriter stuff. I wouldn't say there's been any period when there's been a lot of good female fronted bands since the late eighties.

chuck norris 08.21.2006 02:51 PM

I wondered if it had anything to do with America's obsession with political correctness and emancipation movements, but I don't believe that's the answer.

MIA is great.

badgercorn 08.21.2006 02:55 PM

There's these bands: http://www.ladyfestnewcastle.co.uk/line_up/

pokkeherrie 08.21.2006 04:21 PM

if you're counting past artists like the beatles and karen carpenter then don't forget the raincoats, the slits, siouxsie, x-ray specs, etc, etc

or... eh, julie andrews, vera lynn and charlotte church.:D

Toilet & Bowels 08.21.2006 09:12 PM

what'sherface from fairport convention, marianne faithfull, shirley collins, there have been a number of notable mixed gender bands from the uk such as my bloody valentine, stereolab, the delgadoes, the pastels, the vaselines, belle & sebastian, the delgados, urusei yatsura, the marine girls, daisy chainsaw, pentangle, lush, vibracathedral, bolt thrower, throbbing gristle, where th' faith healers mixed? quickspace certainly were. there's also mira calix, neotropic, coleen, shystie...

Toilet & Bowels 08.21.2006 09:17 PM

also, broadcast, beth gibbons, the one who sang with tricky, kaffe matthews

Cantankerous 08.21.2006 09:17 PM

PJ harvey is lovely, i am waiting for her to release another album.

Savage Clone 08.21.2006 11:28 PM

Anne Briggs, Shirley and Dolly Collins, the Watersons, Mellow Candle, Midwinter, Axe.
Look to UK folk and folk-rock, and you will find an enormous amount of talent from the ladies.

Cantankerous 08.21.2006 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
yea lets have a smashed howl for marianne faithfull who's husband ended up giving her the most ironic name in history.... but i still love her and also mick even more so he can't be wrong no nothing beats the stones. wait the subject has gone walkabouts again in my mind all i know is "bolt thrower" from your list and i think they had one belter song (THE 4TH CRUSADE) I MAY STILL HAVE IT HAA WHAT Caps WAS THE SUBJECT CAPS again saaaa

her dad, not her husband. her husband was john dunbar.

Cantankerous 08.22.2006 12:57 AM

mick jagger might also ring a bell, but she wasn't married to him.

GeneticKiss 08.22.2006 01:19 AM

What about Lush?

I don't think they're around anymore...their drummer killed himself, things like that tend to make bands break up...

Pookie 08.22.2006 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
what'sherface from fairport convention, marianne faithfull, shirley collins, there have been a number of notable mixed gender bands from the uk such as my bloody valentine, stereolab, the delgadoes, the pastels, the vaselines, belle & sebastian, the delgados, urusei yatsura, the marine girls, daisy chainsaw, pentangle, lush, vibracathedral, bolt thrower, throbbing gristle, where th' faith healers mixed? quickspace certainly were. there's also mira calix, neotropic, coleen, shystie...


Mira Calix (Mrs. Autechre) is South African. She is pretty fantastic though.

Bolt Thrower? You slipped that one in there thinking nobody would notice?

porkmarras 08.22.2006 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
what'sherface from fairport convention, marianne faithfull, shirley collins, there have been a number of notable mixed gender bands from the uk such as my bloody valentine, stereolab, the delgadoes, the pastels, the vaselines, belle & sebastian, the delgados, urusei yatsura, the marine girls, daisy chainsaw, pentangle, lush, vibracathedral, bolt thrower, throbbing gristle, where th' faith healers mixed? quickspace certainly were. there's also mira calix, neotropic, coleen, shystie...

mira calix is not british,i think.

Pookie 08.22.2006 04:01 AM

I just said that. Have you got me on ignore again? Was it all the punk threads?

porkmarras 08.22.2006 04:02 AM

Ops!Sorry spookie i hadn't read your post yet.

porkmarras 08.22.2006 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
I just said that.

OK!And i've just apologized.:rolleyes:

Tokolosh 08.22.2006 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
PJ harvey is lovely, i am waiting for her to release another album.


The band Howling Bells is described as “The sound of PJ Harvey hitching a ride with the Velvet Underground through Twin Peaks.”
You might like them.

Article by NME
Website

Toilet & Bowels 08.22.2006 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Mira Calix (Mrs. Autechre) is South African. She is pretty fantastic though.

Bolt Thrower? You slipped that one in there thinking nobody would notice?



i know she's south african, but i was granting her honorary status because she owes her recognition to being in the UK


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