it was pretty great, and mind blowing to survey all the stuff he's been involved with, except from some shitty kenny loggins track i skipped in horror, an another one that followed but eh
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Noice but don’t you think “Third” is the best one? |
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One of the greatest debut albums of all time and nobody ever talks about it. Fuck off, I beat off to this record. It gives me a boner |
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Yup yup. |
an apple playlist with eric dolphy as session musician
so far... FUCKING GLORIOUS [mingus... india live with coltrane...] eta: dumb playlist picchur such good music tho... |
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Andrew Hill's Point of Departure on there? Legendary |
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Sev mentioned Wire a few pages back. You really need to sit down with their first three albums.
(Yes, person-about-to-type "Some of their other stuff is good too!" I know. Still. The first three. You know it.) |
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Loop -Radial One of the best things they've done, in my opinion. |
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I actually agree 100 percent. They have a ton of material, and almost all of it is good to very good, but their first three albums? Fucking FORGET ABOUT IT. That’s one of the best three-album runs in music history, and on those three albums you'll find the absolute apex of ‘70s British punk. I’ll take Pink Flag/Chairs Missing/154 over even just about anything else that was loosely categorized as “punk” during that period. They’re, like, omega-level. Get on that shit. |
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Oh, I'm sure I'll enjoy it a lot. I already know some the individual tracks of those albums and really dig them, for some reason I just never took the time to listen to them in their full glory. Weird, I know - especially given the fact that I'm into the things I'm into. I'll do so tomorrow. For now, I'll listen to some Ambient since I need to get shit done for university. But I'm really looking forward to them. |
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didnt get to it yesterday but otw today will check whole album, thanks! |
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Enjoy! The whole of Coltrane Live at the Village Vanguard 1961 recordings are genius and have major Dolphy contributions. With the Tyner/Jones rhythm section too... perfection |
'Only Shallow' now has Behind the Lyrics on Spotify. Also, 'Sometimes' is the best MBV song and you know it. |
Made a stop at Vinal Edge Wednesday morning. Inside the glass case they had a box of cassettes, most of the stuff I wasn’t familiar with. For $2-$4, I took several chances......starting with this:
Edit: lo-fi anti-harsh noise recorded at various points between September 2012 and November 2013. |
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'Sometimes' is absolutely amazing. I'd tie it with 'When You Sleep' and 'Come In Alone' though. It's so hard to pick a definite favorite with MBV. |
Oi! Going for the hattrick now.
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YES. Pink Flag takes the cake as far as ‘70s punk — proper punk, not proto- or post- — is concerned. I listened to “Mannqeuin” yesterday, and it’s still every bit as perfect and exhilarating as it was the first time I heard it. Chairs Missing and 154 are more post-punk, but goddamn. Still, basically the peak of what was possible with the genre at that time. “The 15th” is one of the best songs ever. Enjoy! |
Alright, listened to all of them now. And I might be called a blasphemer, but I did prefer Chairs Missing and 154 over Pink Flag. That might have something to do with my usual listening habits though. I've been very enamoured with the more gothy side of Post-Punk over the last decade (love the combination of a dominant bass-section and murky, ominous atmospheres). And I generally prefer my Punk with a certain extra flavor, whether it may be the Post-, the Dance-, the Art- or whatnot prefix, that's more my forte. Pink Flag is pretty much straightforward Punk. Nothing wrong with that, it just didn't immediately tickle my fancy as much as the other two did. I did however immediately love the drony weirdness and ominous echoes of "Strange" and I thought "Fragile" was a great followup despite the tonal shift, or maybe because of it. I will certainly give it another listen in the future, it might grow on me more with repeated listens. Chairs Missing and 154 however do have that atmospheric tension I seem to gravitate towards, so it was - at least for now - a more instantly gratifying listen. The 15th is great indeed. I generally like the feel and the structure of that particular album - it's positively weird and somewhat psychedelic. Chairs Missing too.
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I disagree. I'm really busy right now and my computer is acting out like the hard drive is gonna burst into flames, so I'll argue my opinion later. :) |
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I'm not sure what doctrine is when it comes to ranking the albums individually, but you're certainly going to burn in eternal fire if you don't like the Trilogy as a whole. My list goes: Chairs Pink 154 Pink Flag took me a few listens to get into. It's actually tuneful and witty, but it didn't seem so at first to me. And I think parts are funny, although no one seems to agree with me. "I'm tired of being told what to think I'm tired of being told what to do I'm tired of fucking phonies, that's right I'm tired of you Alright, no, no, no, no, no, no, Mr. Suit No, no, no, no, no, no, Mr. Suit" Either that's from stupid serious people, or smart joking people. I hear the latter. I think by taking the piss out of generic punk, they necessarily become "post-punk." |
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Sure, opinions may vary. And yeah, there is a bit of artsiness sprinkled in there, like "Strange" for instance, which I singled out before. But it's certainly not incorrect to say it's more straightforward Punk than its two followups. At least in terms of sound and presentation. Lyrical content and intentions are something different altogether. Anyway, take care for now. Your computer certainly needs your full attention right now. |
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Yes, they are very tongue-in-cheek. Never doubted that. And I didn't want to pooh-pooh the album, far from it. It just didn't quite cater to my listening sensibilities like the other two did. Opinions can change though. Or they might not. It remains to be seen. |
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There are no wrong answers here, but Pink Flag is not straightforward punk. It falls distinctly into the one or more of the avant- subareas at pretty much all times. Dance-? Check. Art-? Check. It’s even got its atmospheric moments. It’s not “Never Mind the Bollocks” ... or “The Clash.” Even at their first release, Wire was already well into the bizarro corners of the genre. Yes, it’s punk. But it’s also more than that. Might take multiple listens for that to resonate, but I think it will. |
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I'll certainly listen to it again. Maybe it'll click more then. Wouldn't be the first time. The Sound's "From The Lions Mouth" was such a case (which I absolutely adore these days, like top-tier love), or NYC Ghosts & Flowers if we're talking the Youff. But the latter is still a very divisive album. I digress. Yeah, it's not exactly like any of those bands. It's less poppy than a lot of those early Punk bands. It's more the speed and the overall approach that have lead me to conclude that. But yeah, it's more unkempt and certainly has a weird edge over said contemporaries. I can see that. |
Alright, now I've talked myself into listening to this thing of beauty again. It'll be a nightcapper.
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Lots of reading again today. So: Ambient Saturday!
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