No offense man. I really like the first Foos album. I really like "My Hero" (a lot), but their last 18 years of material just doesn't do a thing for me.

I'm glad Dave Grohl has a beard and helped get Ringo Afterthought Starr into the R&R hall of fame by calling a meeting of the rock and pop illuminati and floating the idea by Springsteen and whatnot, but I feel nothing when I hear his music post 1997/8.

I did really like white stripes too, yeah

Its all good, no offense taken. Just a fact. I hear Foos And always enjoy it. Its never groundbreaking. Just consistntly good to me.

I still think White Blood Cells is my fav.

Sonic Nurse Motherfuckerz

Speaking of ween what happened to our disturbed artist bot who replaced gasty?

Well, just listened Mollusk. I think I will not become huge Ween fan, but I really like it. And I am going to listen at least the Pod, because I just love lo-fi-stuff. I think Ween brothers have listened Zappa...at least they seem to have same kind of ideology "you can be funny and same time make serious music".

I am not sure do I understand correct, but are here Primus haters? I am not a big fan, but really used to listen a lot their "Tales from the Punch Bowl" and liked it! Not listen it a long time, maybe should...

About White Stripes, I have said this many times earlier, but White Stripes has always been to me poor man´s JSBX. I haven´t heard proper album from them, yes they have some really good songs.

Well, I think for example Beefheart, Zappa, Lydia Lunch & Birthday party are much more fucked up & disturbed than Ween, but maybe I should listen more Ween...

Yes. As far as I can tell, what separates a Ween lover and a Ween hater is whether or not the listener finds them funny. Personally I find them as funny as a wacky morning radio zoo crew.


The fuck?

That's not their kind of humor though. It's not whoopy coushion shit. It's not "zany" ... They're not They Might Be Giants. Their songs would never work as an opening theme to Malcolm in the Middle.

It's a much more cultish, dark humor. It's rooted a bit in the literary tradition of the Grotesque, in my opinion. Mervyn Peak's Gormenghast trilogy and its accompanying artwork, is a cultural starting point for a lot of Ween's imagery.

Like, check out this illustration:


Has fuckall to do with Ween, and yet... This totally feels like Ween to me. Like, down to the smallest detail.

"The Blarney Stone" is a good example of what I'm getting at... Is it cheap laughs and fart sounds? Not at all. It's a roaring pirate pub chant sung in a reverent Irish accent... Is that inherently funny? Is it "comedy"? No. But there's something about the song that makes me dumb ass smile.

And if you love Ween these lyrics might inspire you to sing along in your loudest, crudest voice. It's not really that it's funny, it's more that it's awesome in the way things are awesome to a child.

Get off my ass you wee bitty fuck
if I pull out the claymore you're shit outta luck
who's that girl, that pretty young thing
after I fuck her she'll get up and sing

Aye Aye Aye
sharpen your boot, and bludgeon your eye
Aye Aye Aye
the Blarney Stone brings a tear to me eye

down to the pub for a two shilling ale
the bread on the counter is going stale
if I don't get some fresh bread soon
gonna punch you in your face and bark at the moon

Aye Aye Aye
sharpen your boot, and bludgeon your eye
Aye Aye Aye
the Blarney Stone brings a tear to me eye

Aint got no girl 'cuz I haven't the time
got too many other things on me mind
Patty was nice she was pale and cute
but I threw her away like an old piece of fruit

Aye Aye Aye
sharpen your boot, and bludgeon your eye
Aye Aye Aye
the Blarney Stone brings a tear to me eye

got ooze in my pores my feet are all wet
got mold in my ears but I ain't dead yet
got stones in me bladder got a crack in me head
when Patty starts cryin' this is what I said

Aye Aye Aye
sharpen your boot, and bludgeon your eye
Aye Aye Aye
the Blarney Stone brings a tear to me eye

That shit is just weird. Not deliberate and hokey like tag team radio "Weenie and the Butt" clichés.

But all this "funny or not funny" crap really neglects the main point of what I was trying to say earlier: Ween's music is almost objectively good. Every genre they play with, they nail it, and then bend it and twist it all to hell. I don't put on Ween when I want to laugh. I don't listen to comedy records, and I loathe gimmicky comedy bands. I listen to Ween when my brain can handle the overload of expertly crafted, schizophrenic music that is written with all the texture and care of a Lennon/Mccartney joint, no matter how ugly it may get, or how odd it might sound.

Bottom line: they're not a goddamn joke band. No more than Sebadoh (who I once saw them open for), or the Flaming Lips, or blah blah. Nobody likes joke bands. I think people would have an easier time with Ween if they stopped focusing on that massive misconception.

I appriciate the effort but:

1- Seems simply juvinile, dark streak or no

2- I really hate that guy. His name was Pete. For a second I considered putting on Choc and Cheese. But then I saw his face in my mind. Couldn't do it.

3- You really don't get how someone could not like them? Off all the bands to use the word "objectively" about, you're going to pick this one? Heck, not everyone likes the Beatles.

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Meanwhile, listening to the new PIL. I guess PIL wouldn't be PIL if they didn't disappoint now and then. This isn't as good as THIS IS PIL, which I still love for the most part.

I like joke bands, IF THEY ARE FUNNY!

There are 3 LP's of Dead Milkmen that I love right up there with anything.

TMBG I love too, and are NOT a joke band. They were more DIY and "punk" than most, and have paid their dues for DECADES. Ween is not a joke band either, I just do not find their music interesting.

I got the Gormenghast Trilogy lined up to review for my blog.

^ Saw him live shortly after this was released. Yes, you may envy me.

Ah, good good!

What's your blog then?

I get how people could not like them, and the objectivity comment was really directed at their musical ability. They're excellent musicians.

But if you don't like them you don't like them. At least it seems like you've given them a fair shot, and that's the most anyone can really ask for

As you know, I am the one who pay attention only in music. Lyrics can be "hamtydamty" but if the music is great I just love it! After listening Mollusk & Pod I don´t think Ween have added nothing into it what Mothers Of Invention did in the sixties (I really hate those cheap synth drum machine sounds in the pod, they really should have put for example distortion between that ugly synth & recording machine, I am glad it didn´t prevent me to enjoy that album wholly). I think Ween is much more softer, some kind of pop version of the mothers that era. I am anyway glad I have listened it and maybe sometime in the future will listen it more when there is moment I haven´t got any other interesting album I haven´t listen yet (It might took long).

If I had heard Ween in the nineties, my opinion could of course be different. On the other hand I think it might not, because I think I am the only one here who thinks SY hasn´t made anything really special and new, but I anyway love it and it´s my favourite band.

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Ween are rubbish.

I'm listening to The Byrds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIEV1OanDGY

Severian - Honestly, get your bad taste in music sorted. Ween?

If you could save yourself you'd save us all.

You son of a bitch.
:D

Yep, mentioned them tons of times on SYG. Nothing new, move along.

Rats On Rafts new album. They may aswell have just covered Bad Moon Rising and called it their new album.

haha, thank you, man.

Oh, I forgot to mention: June sang as well.



I always loved their early jangly stuff. Putting some on right now. But I could never get into their country stuff. I'm told SWEETHEART is a great record, but I can't really hear it.

I really love Mr. Tambourine Man, Fifth Dimension & Younger Than Yesterday-albums! Really also always loved Byrds version about Mr. Tambourine Man, hard to say which is better, Dylan or theirs. Have to listen also Turn!Turn!Turn! album someday.

About drugs & creativity, I have always thinking drug using doesn´t increase creativity even it of course affects the substance of what you create. If it´s not so, then I think we have lots more creative people in the world.

To me it have been backward, I have first checked all the sixties and seventies stuff and after that 80-2000 stuff. Never really get in anything of the lame stuff of sixties/seventies like Steely Dan or later Fleetwood Mac. Thin Lizzy is ok.

Have you heard any of their country stuff? Wondering if you'd dig it. You might. In 1968 or so, they stopped ripping off REM and became another band.

rock n' roll !!!

Uh, wait.. What? The Byrds ripping off REM in the '60s? I'm dead lost.

I adore disc 2

Can you not tell he's not being serious? Jesus Christ man!

Nope. 'Swhy I asked.

I'm sad you think my brain is a dripping turd.

Meanwhile...

Who does this singer sound like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCt5RM2_93c

Shitty song. But that's not why I brought it up.

She does that sickeningly fake white-girl Billy Holiday thing that a good 85% of soulful indie female singers do nowadays. Know what I'm talking about?

So, who does this singer sound like? Close your eyes and tell me who you could mistake her for. I want to make a list of idiots with this affectation.