I always loved everlong :(

^^me too!. it's the moody heartfelt power pop choruses.

Severian's post was totally backwards on how I feel about those two songs. though I'm warming to My Hero.

Oops. Sorry guys.

I know Everlong's the big favorite... I am utterly in the minority.

But I barely count as even a fair weather Foos fan. I love album #1, and on TCATS I pretty much just like... well, My Hero... even though I like it a LOT and whenever I hear it fills me with adrenaline and nostalgia. The drum intro kills me. It's just an amazing song, not in an objective way, but in a way that had a lot to do with being a Nirvana fan who was frustrated that the Foo's were an entirely different creature.

When I first heard that song, and to a lesser extent saw the video, I felt like the elephant in the room was finally being acknowledged. I was so disappointed by Monkeywrench and blah blah walking after you blah.. Fucking love songs and goofy videos! It was insulting! But My Hero had nothing silly about it, not even in the video (Everlong was a different story). It really felt like what I *wanted* the Foos to be.

But most people agree with y'all. I'm the outsider here. No insult or criticism intended.

I gotcha!! that double drum intro to My Hero is pretty rad. you know The Melvins wanted him for a second drummer for a long time. Dave can kick a kick drum in the ass, no doubt.

not a Foo Fighters fan at all, but a good song is a good song. it's like Korn's "freak on a leach". good pop/hard rock radio song.

Foo fighters were always a band my inner snob said i should hate, but i only just get happy when i hear them. Just a good solid band.

meh, the Foo's are shit!! same with every other famous 90's hard rock/rap rock/alternative band.

like they tried to rock so hard but it was too hard without any thought or emotion. like, it's aggressive but doesn't have any real aggression....just to sell to kids. just what the world wanted at the time for stupid white boys.

post Nirvana 90's in a nut shell. and you can include Matchbox 20 with those guys. all the same.

The first foo records are good

I still love their first album, even though I never play it. But yeah, they're ludicrously crappy. Everybody can play and sing pretty well, and even the lyrics are alright. But they really are just an atrocious band all things considered.

Dave Grohl is like rock royalty at this point. He hangs out with Springsteen and Paul McCartney and is involved in the R&R hall of fame, and blah blah... Odd company for a dude who cut his teeth in the DC hardcore scene.

uh, forgot what I was going to say....??...


The Residents - Duck Stab/The Gingerbread Man vids and every other Residents vid I can find.
Join Mitchell
Bob Dylan


... oh yeah, the first Foo album is mediocre.

right. the area that would interest me is the relationship of music and language cadence.

beasts apparently do not process music/keep beats. except for cockatoos & the such.

i.e. language cadence as the origin of music.

"but what about rhythm" you say. rhythm is not cadence.

no need to get mystical. syl-la-bles have the beat.

is that a question
is that a question
that is a question?
that is a question

aphasia = amusia? (not necessarily-- not if aphasia involves syntax but the cadence / beat areas are intact).

good hypothesis. go test it. i'm retired now.

say hello to gazzaniga.

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rock came from electricity

then came electronics & digital

maybe the next music revolution comes from neuroscience

direct electrodes to the temporal gyrus

who needs headphones?

the next music revolution comes from the death of the record label. everything is likeable and nothing is old or new. fans experience live music like it should thru fandom. there will be no revolutionary new or old genres, just a constitution set in modem stone to like what you like you like without a provider. free service and music for every one because it will be controlled by the one and only...

the rich....:fuckyou: while selling you Merzbow. they own and control all of you right now, you just don't know it because you jack off to yr facebook and tumbler.

I have to disagree. I could listen music where are nazi lyrics. It´s just I haven´t ever heard listenable music with nazi lyrics (there are some skinpunkbands in Finland). Also, one Finnish band Liimanarina has quite awful lyrics, but I have enjoyed their music.

Going to listen their live Worldbroken.

I didn´t remember which of their songs this is, so I listened it. Have to admit it sounds quite good (but not going to listen more them). Reminds a little SY in RR. Never listened whole Foo album, always find them quite boring.

At least they really try this. They really try to advertise me that new, boring, samesounding shit through spotify (I have wondered why they don´t ever advertise anything of my music taste, I just can´t believe it´s not possible). Haven´t got any influence to me yet, but maybe when I have listened those 20 years, my brains & eyes are empty and I just say "I put digster on" or whatever that will be those days.

^^ the first paragraph was the optimistic. the last sentence or two was the pessimistic.

the hell if I know what going on. time and space moves regardless of yr bullshit.

True.

Fuck it.

THEORY: In the future (probably the near future), we'll use band names as sub-genres.

"I play my own songs."

"Oh, what sort of music do you write?"

"Mostly anti-folk and joy division."

i listened to the "is this it" strokes album yesterday-- for old time's sake.

the title track has stuck to my brain like disgusting fly paper, with its stupid singsong, and the rest i recall as a boring repetitive pile of undifferentiated nothing.

see, reviewers like pitchfork praise its tales of "urban youth" or whatever teh fuck, but since i can't understand lyrics all i hear is a bunch of boring songs that all sound the same and add nothing to what already exists.

if i need tales of urban youth i'll read a magazine or something.

lol i remember the days when "urban youth" used to mean "hoodlums," not "brooklyn trustafarians."


"anti-folk" sounds very good right now

the Strokes are rich kids that made one, maybe two great albums. the White Stripes made two or three.

looking back, the Queens of the Stone Age kicked all their asses with Song for the Deaf. and that's a fact, not opinion. completely different but all gold. amazing band.

don't tell me they suck, because they had the best drummer at the time and much more creative songs. nobody gave a shit because of snobs and the grunge overtones they had, but they were better than that. certainly much more non-retro.

you like Led Zeppelin right? then check those guys out. you can't go wrong with Mark Lanegan behind the vocals and Dave Grohl behind the drums.

also check their first album and rated R.

The Desert Sessions 9 & 10 are absolutely fabulous (there is also P.J. Harvey)! Don´t like Strokes & White Stripes at all (well White Stripes has few great songs).

Worldbroken is great! Must for all SY-fans, specially those who love their jammy/noisy outputs. Reminds me little bit Lee´s spoken solo-pieces. Also listened again Lydia Lunch and Teenage Jesus & the Jerks, they´re just fantastic!

the desert sessions are pretty much just junk. very good junk that is. I love them all. yes, the one with PJ Harvey is excellent.

I'm listening to this new record by Blanck Mass (Benjamin John Power of Fuck Buttons) titled “Dumb Flesh.”



And while I have to admit that I was really hoping for 2015 to bring along a proper follow-up to 2013's phenomenal Slow Focus. With each release, Fuck Buttons grow about a century, and none of their three albums have not made my top 5 at the end of their respective year.

But Dumb Flesh, like Power's 2010 album under the same name, is extremely satisfying, and with Andrew Hung also releasing material in 2015 (Rave Cave EP "level 1", with a "level 2" hopefully on its way) I guess this is pretty much as close as one can get to having new Fuck Buttons music in earnest.

But Dumb Flesh is the superior solo effort, even if it wasn't quite as ambitious a project as Hung's Game Boy composed EP, it draws me in much like FB's three LP's... Forcefully, as though some hidden tentacled arms were jetting out from behind the speakers and pulling me bodily into its great blubbery being.

Worse things have tried to eat me... Go FUCK BUTTONS, even when yr not currently in Fuck Button form!

I need sleep very badly.

From what I have read the song Everlong really touched him after the birth of his baby Harry. It's his fave song, he says, for emotional reasons. Dave has always loved loud rock, and thoughtful singer-songwriters. He IS from Indiana you know...

KINKS-

Low Budget (1979)
Give the People What They Want (1981)
State of Confusion (1983)
Word of Mouth (1984)

Good bad albums, or bad good albums? The guitars sound cool for the most part, and Davies' lyrics remain Davies-esque (a very good thing). But after all, during this period they did add a fifth member to play the "synth." The 80s were harsh, but these albums could've sucked a lot more than they do. And they beat the crap out of Dylan's output of the time, or the Stones, or McCartney, etc.

Janis Ian`s Between the Lines-album is maybe little bit too easylistening music to me, I like much more her earlier outputs, but anyway it beats thousand Fleetwood Mac Rumours. In it´s all cliches I find this really great (all the albums songs have very great arrangements):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1u1GN2uO6I

It´s quite a miracle hipsters haven´t yet found this hidden genius.

he'd be playing here tonight,
but I have to work.
bummer

The Kinks... The Davies bros. in general, and especially Ray, have always been the runt of the litter. I don't know why, because their music was so diverse and so bold during that golden era between their debut and Lola Vs. Powerman.. An incredible run of albums that more than kept pace with what the Beatles, Stones and Who were doing at the time.

But the general consensus is that they started sucking after the switch to RCA, and I can't really argue that those were weird times, but I still find moments to enjoy on Preservation Act 1 & 2.

But if you skip ahead, Sleepwalker really is an interesting and bizarre album. And their work in the 80's was indeed superior to that of the Stones, and Dylan.

Davies was a perennial outcast, always misunderstood. The Kinks as a band were always a few mental steps ahead of the populist rock n' roll world. Albums like Village Green Preservation Society and Arthur were far too subtle and quirky and eccentric for American audiences in the '60s. But looking back they were really something. "Victoria" is one of the best songs of the '60s. But how do you expect the American youth culture in 1968/9 to be able to relate to it, or any of their quintessentially British concept pieces?

Whatever.
Kinks > pretty much everything.

I guess. Sorta. All I know is the first time I heard "Victoria" I found myself singing along before the song ended. Arthur might be my favorite, and it's failure is a little strange. I blame all the drugs.

Yeah, I'll be diving into the RCA concept albums next. As long as there's a few good songs each album, I'll be happy.

I should probably check out Ray and Dave's solo stuff too.

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I'm a little embarrassed that I've listened to Singles Going Steady a few hundred times, but I don't think I've ever sat down with a proper Buzzcocks album. What's the one with the least dross?

the same thing happened to me but i know nothing about the britishisms severian claims are in it-- it's the music not some coded message in the lyrics. still don't know what that song is about.

just like glooooooriaaa

(maybe that's what stole their thunder)

(though i found out what the lyrics were on that one)

also: lo-lo-lo-lo-looola

O + A

(the open vowels)

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eta: also:

paranOIA the destrOIA

It's not secret code Brit propaganda, bro. It's just a song about "Victoria" as in Queen Victoria, who is used as a metaphor for England. It's just very British is all I'm saying. So much of their music was distinctly British- with references to Brit culture of both past and (then) present.

All of Arthur is about British Imperialism, war, nationalism and loss. The album is, after all, titled Arthur Or The Decline and Fall of the British Empire.

It's really not a subtle thing.

I feel weird and dizzy. Can't think straight. Hard to type. I'm not having a stroke am I?

I totally get the language barrier thing, but you're really missing a big piece of what made Kinks so special if you entirely ignore the words.

Long ago, life was clean
Sex was bad, called obscene
And the rich were so mean
Stately homes for the Lords
Croquet lawns, village greens
Victoria was my queen
Victoria! Victoria!

But yeah. "Lick Bore Ee Uh!" might be just as catchy off the bat.

What a sad way to go.

If one is not or cannot pay attention to the lyrics, are verses usually pretty boring? In the best songs, this is where the story develops. But if you don't care about the story, are verses mostly just the boring bits between the choruses?

do you smell toast?


longooooria

that's good lyrics-- though not as funny as "lola"-- we used to scream it drunk--- i had a friend actually named lola-- none of us knew then the song was about gender panics (or lack thereof).

if wish you read spanish so you could read josé agustín's "de perfil" which is a novel about upper middle class mexican kids from the 60s forming rocanrroll bands-- it's full of innumerable superfunny moments, and the transcription of one of the kids (the narrator i think) mouthing the words of a song in english gave me bellyaches with laughter.

i can't replicate it here because it takes a genius for prose plus you'd have to hear it from spanish. the closest approximation i could think of is cornholio.