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Everyneurotic 03.14.2007 12:42 AM

'00: The Decade Of The Gimmick
 
have you noticed that a large percentage of bands right now and coming out for the last few years have some sort of dumb thing to them besides the music?

one of the most annoying ones are having uniforms/costumes, what the fuck is up with that? there's so many people doing this that you can no longer tell them apart, it's not like "bands with masks suck".

case in point: tonight on letterman, the good the bad and the queen performed and damon albarn and the chicks playing strings were wearing tuxs and top hats, it looked so damn pretentious (but then again, i should have expected something like that from mr. blur); last night, amy winehouse performed and her image was so manufactured it was nauseating, she made avril lavigne look authentic!

what happened to no frills rock n' roll/music? of course, i expect that in a couple of years, a huge backlash will occur kinda like the alterna 90's.

your thoughts? i'm just sick of 95% of bands being image oriented and roughly less than half of them actually having music that is worth tolerating their crap.

Cantankerous 03.14.2007 12:46 AM

just wait until i grow up a little more. i play a killer bass. i have no image.

Everyneurotic 03.14.2007 12:50 AM

why grow? wear high heels.

Cantankerous 03.14.2007 12:52 AM

i'm tall enough. i think i'm 5'8". i wear heels almost every day.

Everyneurotic 03.14.2007 12:54 AM

cool, can't wait to see you teach the kids how it's done.

krastian 03.14.2007 12:58 AM

You do have to admit that Sunn O)))'s cloaks are pretty fucking awesome.

Cantankerous 03.14.2007 12:58 AM

i'm not interested in going platinum and playing SNL. i'm interested in making music. i enjoy making music. there are a lot easier ways of making money, believe me. i wouldn't want to do it if i didn't enjoy it. YOU try playing a big fucking heavy bass in platform shoes.

Everyneurotic 03.14.2007 01:03 AM

well yeah, it's kinda like a parallel thread.

don't get me wrong, i do think there's an awful lot of amazing music out there right now kicking ass and i don't particularly think it's wrong having something besides a couple of people playing instruments going around for a band. the thing is, the vast majority of bands/artists right now are like that, there's no sense of balance and it gets to be sickening.

i mean, bands with gimmicks that are absolutely amazing range from lightning bolt to sunn o))) to polysics. it's not a lack of rock, it's an off center focus on crap besides the music.

Everyneurotic 03.14.2007 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i'm not interested in going platinum and playing SNL. i'm interested in making music. i enjoy making music. there are a lot easier ways of making money, believe me. i wouldn't want to do it if i didn't enjoy it. YOU try playing a big fucking heavy bass in platform shoes.


i didn't imply you were going to be rich and famous, just that by playing the music you enjoy, you would show people how it's done and i would love to see that.

besides, i can't lie to you, the thought of beginning a glam rock band (the dolls meets too fast for love-era mötley crüe) has crossed my mind.

my ex-bandmates always talked about meeting a&r people and about getting signed, every show was "did we turn people into our band?" dumb shit like that. the duration of the show and the rehearsals were my favorite parts of being in my band.

Cantankerous 03.14.2007 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i didn't imply you were going to be rich and famous, just that by playing the music you enjoy, you would show people how it's done and i would love to see that.

besides, i can't lie to you, the thought of beginning a glam rock band (the dolls meets too fast for love-era mötley crüe) has crossed my mind.

glam rock bores me. it's the same chuck berry riffs over and over with double entendres and innuendoes for lyrics and glitter eyeliner. teasing your hair wouldn't hurt either.

Everyneurotic 03.14.2007 01:10 AM

i still think mixing too fast for love with the new york dolls would sound more interesting than any marc bolan reenactor.

Cantankerous 03.14.2007 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kegmama
Don't forget the tight leather pants. Savage Cape probably has some you can borrow...
Is 'Glam Rock' still considered the same thing I call 'Cock Rock'?

i have leather pants. and silver sparkly boots.

Everyneurotic 03.14.2007 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i have leather pants.


i don't, that's hyper gay.

i rather go in spandex.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegamama
Don't forget the tight leather pants. Savage Cape probably has some you can borrow...
Is 'Glam Rock' still considered the same thing I call 'Cock Rock'?


glam rock:
the dolls
t rex
bowie
slade
sweet
roxy music
gary glitter

glam metal a.k.a. hair metal:
poison
the crüe
warrant
quiet riot
w.a.s.p.
bon jovi
cinderella
dokken

i vaguely recall people naming guns n' roses and l.a. guns cock rock so i'm not sure. then again, i've heard the cock rock tag applied to ac/dc and the stooges.

Cantankerous 03.14.2007 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
i don't, that's hyper gay.

i rather go in spandex.

glam rock:
the dolls
bowie
slade
sweet
roxy music
gary glitter

glam metal a.k.a. hair metal:
poison
the crüe
warrant
quiet riot
w.a.s.p.
bon jovi
cinderella
dokken

i vaguely recall people naming guns n' roses and l.a. guns cock rock so i'm not sure. then again, i've heard the cock rock tag applied to ac/dc and the stooges.


i'm a chick. i can get away with it. i also have silver hot pants but i don't wear those in combination with the silver boots. OVERKILL.

roxy music is like glam avantgarde.

Everyneurotic 03.14.2007 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
... i also have silver hot pants but i don't wear those in combination with the silver boots. OVERKILL...


you would look like a walking solar panel.

k-krack 03.14.2007 01:32 AM

With certain bands, I don't mind it... like it, even!
A couple bands that spring to mind are The Locust and White Mice, both awesome bands, both where the costume is like... a part of the band. The Locust kick fucking ass, and they adorn some costumes for performing, fine, what do I give a fuck?
White Mice, same thing, but it's more like a... half-joke band. They still kick ass harder than most.
Hell, when I finally play my first show, maybe even a few after it, I'll probably don some form of facial distortion, or something to get eyes off me. Not because I can't play, but because I'm fucking nervous as hell. I'll get used to it eventually, but for a while, whatever!

ZEROpumpkins 03.14.2007 02:15 AM

I think everyone is rejecting modern bands at the moment, and have turned back to 90's and before. Eventually, we will get the kind of bands we got in the 90's and music will be good again. Garuntee.

jon boy 03.14.2007 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegmama
^ No doubt! Playing guitar and actually rocking in a pair of 4" stilletos and a skirt is no joke!

I can't understand the mindset of people who play to pay. I mean the people that are only interested in producing music they can make money off of and mass produce. No talent is needed for that shit. And those fucks have no sense of understanding of what music is really all about.
It's a feeling. An emotion. An orgasm for your ears and soul.


repped.

sonicl 03.14.2007 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
I think everyone is rejecting modern bands at the moment, and have turned back to 90's and before. Eventually, we will get the kind of bands we got in the 90's and music will be good again. Garuntee.

I can't say I can think of any music from the '90s that I would like to see make a comeback. Looking back it was a fairly uninspiring decade.

raging_nelly 03.14.2007 06:02 AM

When will it all end? Already people are starting to say 'there are no gimmicks with us' and this in itself its kinda becoming a gimmick...

its like a never ending circle... as opposed to an ending one...


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