Sonic Youth - Argentina 2011
 

some local radios and rollingstone arg confirmed sy as one of the bands to play in 2011's edition of Personal Fest.. waiting for the band to confirm this

Hope they don't play the same day as the strokes..

would love to see Lee doing a solo noise show in some smal venue too.. like he did in Chile some years ago

love
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It's been confirmed by Sonic Youth:
http://www.sonicyouth.com/main/

Just don't delete this. It's not a complain and it's not offensive neither, it's just a general consensus from SY argentinian fans.



A bit of talk about the prices. Argentina's local devaluated current -Peso- represents $0,25 US cents. This means all international products (including ticket prices) are four times more expensive.

VIP: $ 500
General: $ 220
Argentinian Minimal Wage: $ 1.840

Now that's not a problem, because people still pay to see the bands they love. The only problem is the location of the VIP area, since it's moved from the sides of the stage (where it used to be some years ago in most of the shows) to the front of the stage, a place that belongs and should belong eternally to the General.

This is what is going to happen. Some people including myself are going to buy VIP tickets, and the day of the show there's probably going to be a lot of free empty space within the VIP area (like it's happened in some shows) and people from General area are going to break into the VIP area. Like it has happened already in some shows.

Again, is not like the band should play cheaper shows in countries with devaluated current because this is obviously out of anyone's control, but there are other places the band could play in, without VIP frontal sections (because it's not like someone's against VIP, just against VIP front 'general' sections) Personal Fest is just the WRONG place to play.. it's just a big festival sponsored by two cellphone companies that know nothing about music. Broken Social Scene opening for The Strokes and stuff like that.

Sonic Youth playing again in Argentina is one of the most exciting things to happen. And it's going to be awesome. Fans are gonna pay their tickets and the show is going to be epic. Is there a way that they could play with no VIP front area (no problem if VIP area is on the sides, just not the front, god) and still be even more profitable? Yes.

Facebook - 900 fans in just some hours, thinking about not buying VIP tickets
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=201050633287194

People Against front-of-the-stage VIP
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?novip

What to do next? there are thousands of fans that are not going to buy VIP tickets. Since it's a bit difficult for the band to change the venue we're going to avoid people from getting VIP tickets. If the band were to spread this, it would help some fans to reconsider and make Front-VIP-section a lot smaller or whatever...

Apologies for this kind of flooding, but there are hundreds of Sonic Youth fans who right now are trying to convince people to buy General and we need help.

reminds me a bit of the Lollapalooza shows i read about in the '95 tour journals but this sounds worse. shit's fucked up.

Because this situation, i'm not going. Is sad, but is the only way for make a change.

You Argentinian guys have got Steve Shelley's sympathy on facemook. It probably doesn't seem too much of an achievement since nothing has changed so far, but that could indicate that the band already knows, besides speaking very well of Steve's good nature as a person. I sort of understand your grief given that a festival in my neck of the woods is into similar practices. I, however, am not graced with the chance of seeing Sonic Youth playing live this time; it's been quite a while since they stopped here and i know that if a show by them were at the realm of my possibilities to attend, i would be there no matter if i'd end up pretty far away from the stage. I'd say, be happy with what you have to be happy with, and if this means general area tickets, so be it. I'm really against the prospects of the use of violence to get to be in the so-called VIP area as some demography of Argentinian people are proposing on faceboob, everyone should stop to reflect on the consequences that could arise out of such dumb actions, which i would suppose would be in the lines of (at least) missing out on their chances of listening to a Sonic Youth show (even if their location in the crowd is not the most perfect) and possibly even getting their asses hurt, plus of course inflicting violence upon their peers (what if some are there exclusively with the firm intention of enjoying a live performance no matter what?).

nice to see ARG folks here.

unfortunately the VIP section is gonna be really empty..and there are 2 possibilities: organization decides to move the fences and get General Adm near the stage . the other possibility is that organization decides to do nothing..and there's going to be meters of empty VIP space, and the General Admision meters back, behind the empty VIP. If the latter happens, there's going to be chaos...it's happened in Rage Against The Machine shows in Chile and Pearl Jam. Problem is that Argentinian's security always seems to be a bit more though than Chileans security...We don't want anynone getting hurt.. but there's probably going to be chaos..

We're glad we have SY here after all this time...but lots of bands similar to SY (this is in local fanbase, etc) are playing other venues and it's still profitalble. anyway, the band decided to play Personal Fest, so we have to see what we do now.

I don't know.. I wish the band could talk with the organizators so that they move the fences according to the VIP tickets sold.. because in some festivals, if theres a 40 by 20 meters VIP space and only 5 people buy VIP tickets, the fences stay in the place and General Admision stays behind all that empty space. That's what it's going to generate disorder.. If the organizators agree to move the fences according to the VIP tickets sold then it's not such a big problem, because we the fans can still convince people to not buy VIP and get General closer to the Stage.

people are going to BREAK INTO the VIP if there's empty space...so if the band could talk with organizators to move fences according to VIP tix sold that'd be awesome... (even thought it shouldnt be a VIP front section at a Sonic Youth gig!! :*( ) We're desperate...and scared about what's going to happen... and it's going to be the best moment of the lives of thousands of SYArgentinian fans...it's a shame things like this it's ruining the moment for so many people...

I love Sonic Youth, but if they come this way I prefer not to come.

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http://www.topshow.com.ar/TopShow/We...205-11%205.JPG

LOL

We knew we could do something about it.. it's like a half-victory.. in name of all sonic youth fans everywhere... let's go for more

yes!!!!! i'm going!!!!

nevertheless the festival is happening and this is the Spot for the Festival:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZQUrIUfyiI

just lame!

The strokes, Beady eye and Sonic youth in one fest, sounds pretty awesome to me.

there has been an unconscionable absence of speculation about tonight's set list. So,
Catholic Block
Brave Men Run
DV 69

If you get what we got at the Williamsburg waterfront you'd be doing well!

well,yeah. I'm guessing it won't be quite that type of show, but who knows. Google maps tells me I am 6200 miles from Buenos Aires, so looks like I'm not going to make it. Maybe Jenn?

You know, I thought about it--of course I did!--but the cost of travel and
the fact it's a festival gig...nah.

It would be nice of them to toss some of those old, yet still tasty bones to the crowd, though.

Eh? I think The Soup Nazi nailed it perfectly when he talked about the lameness of a festival like this in some other thread. He was referring specifically to the date in Chile, i think, but it can be easily applied to the rest of these Southamerican dates, possibly with the sole exception of Uruguay where they apparently are gonna be playing at a theater. For a moment i thought about travelling to Uruguay to catch the show, but it would be too expensive for me. I'm hoping some documents of good quality will appear, but maybe that won't happen.

BIG FAT BUMP.


Apparently the whole festival will be streaming here:

http://www.personal.com.ar/personalfest/


Please, if somebody is able to capture the webcast of Sonic Youth's performance, do it and share it and i will be your sexual slave!

any idea what time?

StreamTransport doesn't seem to capture the video from this site and neither does the other program that I use. I will be able to get the audio though if I know when it's going to be on.

INXS are about to start now so I guess Sonic Youth will be on in about 2 hours and 40 minutes? I'll either try and stay up to record it or just leave it recording all night...

If anyone else could try and grab this too incase I mess it up that would be good.

About 1 hour 20 minutes to go...

Stu, thank you so much for your efforts. I wish I could help, but I'm really limited on bandwidth. :(

I should be ok to get this but like I said it'll only be the audio. This stream has stopped a couple of times for me but hopefuly it will stay stable for Sonic Youth's performance.

You better be ready to be my slave! ;)

Audio will be much better than nothing, if all else fails!

...And i better will go find some vaseline! :eek:

watching it now.

The setlist is on here

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/sonic-...-3bd1943c.html

I captured the audio from this show and I'm splitting the file now into tracks. Will upload here soon....

Had NO idea this was going down.
OT, on the motorola stage the last band to play yesterday was Rob Insitagotor's cousin's band. He must be jealous ;)!

p.s. THANKS STU!

I tried to get the video too but had no luck with any of the programmes I use. So I filmed most of it with my phone camera, Im not sure what it'll look like but if it's not too bad then I'll put them on youtube.

You can always tag them as "experimental videos" ;) and get famous as video artist.

btw that setlist isn't in the correct order. This is what I have

Sacred Trickster
Calming the Snake
Kotton Krown
Stereo Sanctity
Hey Joni
The Sprawl
'Cross the Breeze
Tom Violence
White Cross
What We Know
Brave Me Run (In My Family)
Death Valley '69
Sugar Kane

on my recording Tom Violence goes very quiet half way through but gets back to normal during White Cross.

I'm not 100% sure but it from what I've read it sounds like Sonic Youth's set got cut short because Calle 13 who were on before them played 25 minutes longer than they were supposed to, that's why the lights came on during Sugar Kane. Still Sonic Youth played a great set for about 1hour 20mins.

Here's my mp3 rip of the webcast. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8YZ4A2YQ

I don't think I will put the videos I got on youtube as they didn't turn out well but if anyone really wants to see them then I'll send them to you...

La habitual puntualidad de este festival falló con el comienzo de la actuación de Sonic Youth media hora más tarde de lo establecido, un inconveniente que provocó los silbidos y gritos de sus fans, irritados con Calle 13, que actuaban antes, por haberse excedido en el horario.

uh yeh...blurgh. I think they did start later for that, not sure how much shorter the set ended up being (1h 20mins soudns about right for a festival gig?) dunno. yeah. ROB your cousin cut the skronk!!!

P.S. THANKS STU!

Should've guessed Rob would have something to do with it!

only joking Rob ;)

Sacred Trickster

Thank you, Stu!


"What We Know":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9MA6...&feature=share

God damn there's a strong possiblity the band split up after the southamerican tour and I ain't got no money to see them here in Santiago. If any foreign user is thinking about following the band down to this side of the world I'm willing to offer my house so you can stay, eat, sleep, take a bath, play guitar with me, listen to some music, play with my brother's PS3, watch some SY dvd's, have some fun you know.... in exchange I will only ask you to pay for my ticket to the show. I can scort you from the airport the day you arrive and then give you a ride back to the airport when you have to leave.

I don't mind posting this very same message in every related thread, please understand how desperate I am to see what could be my fave band's last tour!!!

PM for further details on this offering.