Not to defend Truman's Water (I far prefer I'm being good, for no discernible reason) but the above reminded me of reading about Burzum, getting a record and thinking 'this is just guff'. Love it now, but it took me forever.

Yeah. I saw a video of whatever their single is called on youtube, and I thought it was fucking AMAZING, then I listen to some of their other songs, and they are boring as shit. I even watch live videos of that one song I like, and they sound like shit. I guess the album version of the song is just accidental studio magic.

I find the Grateful Dead disapointing, Just because they're inconsistent
They have enough mind blowing, awesome stuff to make me want to adore them yet there is enough absolute wank for me to know I can never fully love them

I can't stand AC... but would never call someone stupid for liking them.
My lord, I'm dating someone whose musical collection mainly consists of Broadway showtunes. And he's the "manly" one in the relationship! I do not think he's stupid... we just never listen to music together :)

blah blah blah i hate that band blah blah you don't know what you are talking about blah blah blah you insulted my favorite band blah blah blah you're wrong about your personal opinion blah blah blah.

Stereolab. The Replacements. Death Cab For Cutie. Most shoegaze. The Stone Roses. Arcade Fire. Neutral Milk Hotel. Muse.

You are slowly turning into my favourite Mexican ever!

Agree with you concerning Muse and arcade Fire.

Placebo : someone told me it was a band who have pretty much the same sound as Sonic Youth but who played faster.
I'm still loooking for what he was meaning...

I generally hate it when people say this to me, but in the case of Truman's Water, I feel I can say in all honesty that they're a band that only really made sense live. On record they were far too controlled but on stage the mayhem you refer to was very much in evidence. Honestly, one of my all-time favourite live bands.

you shouldn't have bought Universal Truths & Cycles as your first GBV record, start with Alien Lanes & Bee Thousand, then check out everything else from 92 (vampire on titus) to 96 (under the bushes under the stars), then worry about the earlier stuff, later stuff, collabs, side projects, pre-GBV stuff, solo records & out takes box sets.


if you've got your hopes or expectations up for GBV to blow your mind on the first few listens then you will be underwhelmed, their music won't shock you, they're very much a grower type of band in my experience.

Don't ask me why, but I always seem to mistake Guided By Voices with Archers of Loaf. Like I said, don't ask me why. The same thing happens with Mercury Rev and the Flaming Lips.

the stone roses. i really tried to like that band.

demonrail666... The Flaming Lips dissapointed me very much when I saw them live no less. I had always thought the few songs I'd heard by them were pleasant enough... then I saw them live and remember thinking if it wasn't for this flashy stage show I wouldn't be into this goofy pop at all.

Sugarmountain.... I find myself loving the Grateful Dead more and more. True they have a lot of poop... but they have more good in my opinion. I tend to focus on the studio output and the big live gigs though. (I do hate them for spawning bands like Phish and Moe though :( )

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the flaming lips are really dissapointing to me. i can't quite pinpoint what it is, but i can't stand it

yeah, that's how i feel about them too.

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I agree with the Grateful Dead too. Can't stand them.

yellow ledbetter is their only really good song.

The only band I'm shocked by on this thread is Birthday Party. They're great.

Glad someone mentioned No Neck Blues Band. Dull.