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nicfit 01.18.2008 06:13 AM

First "moderator-like action" ever by chabib?
 
Well, besides that "scuzzyanalbroom" and related stuff...


http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...ewpost&t=19019

I say he's right. he=chabib, not the requester.
If anything, coz the rules of the forum are clearly stated..
The question is: how many times did we, as a collective, share more or less "explicit" link to copyrighted stuff?
Stick to pms.
Behave guys.

ZEROpumpkins 01.18.2008 06:38 AM

How about getting rid of all the porn in Sonic Sharing?
EDIT: I spose that's what you mean by scuzzyanalbroom

nicfit 01.18.2008 06:39 AM

He already did that.
http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/forumdisplay.php?f=6

ZEROpumpkins 01.18.2008 06:40 AM

That's what I meant.

nicfit 01.18.2008 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

EDIT: I spose that's what you mean by scuzzyanalbroom


ha ha no no, that was another story, try searching "scuzzyanalbroom" in the search thing and maybe you'll come up with some thread about that :D.

nicfit 01.18.2008 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
That's what I meant.

Ah! I thought you were implying that he should do that!
but he said that was not about moderation, more a sort of "maintenance" yoda style:

"i'm not a mod.
there are no mods.
i just make stuff.

i set the board up and whenever there's time, i maintain it."

atsonicpark 01.18.2008 06:50 AM

That's shocking...

Though it's also shocking that people can't seem to find any albums, in this day of torrents, soulseek, etc. Hell, it's probably easier to find albums nowadays that the Napster days! Any popular album is on torrents and soulseek, any "indie" album is on soulseek, anything more underground than that is free game to share on here -- just don't share the popular shit and everything's good. How is that such a hard logic to follow?

nicfit 01.18.2008 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
That's shocking...

Though it's also shocking that people can't seem to find any albums, in this day of torrents, soulseek, etc. Hell, it's probably easier to find albums nowadays that the Napster days! Any popular album is on torrents and soulseek, any "indie" album is on soulseek, anything more underground than that is free game to share on here -- just don't share the popular shit and everything's good. How is that such a hard logic to follow?


I don't think the point is the popularity... the guy asked for "no new york", which is kinda "famous" but it's not the new 30 seconds to mars.

sarramkrop 01.18.2008 06:56 AM

Where's the shop section on this site? I can't find it.

atsonicpark 01.18.2008 07:14 AM

Hmm.. Well, if it's a copyrighted work, it's still probably pretty popular. Most albums that attain a copyright have probably been heard more than the new Wolf Eyes tape bullshit. That's what I meant, I guess, without getting technical about it.

Anyway...

*looks up "no new york" on soulseek*
*some other shit comes up that have "new york" and "no" in the title, but also the actual album comes up..*

Okay, 23 people are sharing this, and you don't even have to sit in queu lines for 4 of them...

See, this is easy!

gmku 01.18.2008 07:50 AM

My No New York album was made in Russia. How do U.S. copyright laws apply?

nicfit 01.18.2008 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
My No New York album was made in Russia. How do U.S. copyright laws apply?

half of your pc is made in china, you shouldn't be allowed to browse the internet freely...:rolleyes:

█████████ 01.18.2008 07:55 AM

the content is copyrighted despite where the plastic was made.

gmku 01.18.2008 07:57 AM

I wonder what's the difference between file sharing and me making a cassette tape copy and giving it to somebody. Is it that I'm not selling it? Or how is it different from loaning a CD or LP and letting him or her tape or rip a copy?

nicfit 01.18.2008 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
I wonder what's the difference between file sharing and me making a cassette tape copy and giving it to somebody. Is it that I'm not selling it? Or how is it different from loaning a CD or LP and letting him or her tape or rip a copy?

I did not mean to discuss the misteyuos ways of copyright in this thread, just to point out that there ARE rules after all (rules which are more than fair being this a public forum), and what are you guys' thoughts...

gmku 01.18.2008 08:01 AM

Okay, no prob. Those were my thoughts, though.

I think chahib is doing a great job. That's my other thought.

gmku 01.18.2008 08:02 AM

I have to admit, the distinction is still blurry to me. Sharing a link isn't like selling a pirated hard copy of something.

RdTv 01.18.2008 08:07 AM

I did think it was intersting to see chabib's post in the No New York thread.

I also think that the album isn't that hard to find in conventional record/cd stores. Matter of fact I see this album constantly on cd and lp.

That been said, if one must soulseek something then one must soulseek something, but like nicfit said, if you're gonna involve people on here than keep it to PM. That's the way its been done in the past...tried and true.

nicfit 01.18.2008 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
I have to admit, the distinction is still blurry to me. Sharing a link isn't like selling a pirated hard copy of something.

sure, but I think that being the administrator of a forum where there are active links to copyrighted stuff to be found could turn into a problem for the forum owners/admins, no matter what's their take on the copyright issue... I think that "we" should just follow the rules to avoid problems. We still have pms and infinite other means to get our covert operations done.

gmku 01.18.2008 08:10 AM

I agree completely.


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