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noisereductions 08.20.2008 01:40 PM

logistical question for Zappa collectors?
 
Stores tend to just put the Mothers albums in the Zappa section. In your personal collection to you keep them under M for Mothers or Z for Zappa?

And please, no "I keep them under C for Crap" replies or whatever, because frankly, that's just too easy and won't be considered witty or awesome.

al shabbray 08.20.2008 01:41 PM

thats kinda like put ciccone youth under "C" or under "S" for sonic youth

gmku 08.20.2008 01:42 PM

My collection is arranged autobiographically.

noisereductions 08.20.2008 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
My collection is arranged autobiographically.



That sounds.... comforting.

Yr not serious though right?

noisereductions 08.20.2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by al shabbray
thats kinda like put ciccone youth under "C" or under "S" for sonic youth


I go back and forth on this every few months!

al shabbray 08.20.2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I go back and forth on this every few months!


mee too. were checking my collection the last days and again struggled. finally putted it to "S"

noisereductions 08.20.2008 02:00 PM

Yep. Right now it's under S in my collection as well.

mangajunky 08.20.2008 02:24 PM

"z"

I file the stooges under "p"

I file Brian Wilson under the "Beach Boys"

in my movie collection all James Bond movies are under "B" and all band movies are under the band's name not the movie.
for example Quadrophenia and The Kids are Alright are under "w"

noisereductions 08.20.2008 02:33 PM

Wow. Hardcore.

I'd group all JAMES BOND (if I owned anY) under J.
I also put all band DVD's under band/artist name.

I MIGHT put Mothers Under Z, because really they were just a vehicle for Zappa... but still not convinced I should.

Beach Boys under B. Brian Wilson under W. Stooges under S. Iggy under P.

krastian 08.20.2008 02:50 PM

Z for Zappa in chronological order, of course.

noisereductions 08.20.2008 02:55 PM

to clarify, yr saying Mothers under Z and then all in chronological?

sarramkrop 08.20.2008 02:55 PM

All this talk about Zappa is nauseating. The man was a stupid fuck and so was his shit music.

noisereductions 08.20.2008 02:59 PM

totally doesn't answer my question, but thanks.

noisereductions 08.20.2008 03:00 PM

IT's so weird, when I see a thread about a band I dont' like, y'know what I do? I just don't even read that thread. Call me nuts.

Savage Clone 08.20.2008 03:01 PM

The person I work for (posthumously) had a Zappa collection that is the most complete I have ever seen. It just has its own set of shelves outside the rest of the alphabet in his archives. Same for his Sabbath, Beefheart, Venom and Kiss stuff.

sarramkrop 08.20.2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
IT's so weird, when I see a thread about a band I dont' like, y'know what I do? I just don't even read that thread. Call me nuts.


Good for you, whatever. He was still a gobshite that made crap music. OK?

noisereductions 08.20.2008 03:07 PM

My Sonic Youth collection is on its' own bookshelf outside of the rest of my collection. Right now it's a shelf of albums, EP's, videos, DVDs, books, 7"s. Then I have a big drawer full of bootlegs and live shows that I really couldnt fit out on display.

noisereductions 08.20.2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Good for you, whatever. He was still a gobshite that made crap music. OK?


Sure. THats fine with me that you think so. I just don't see what it adds to the conversation of ordering a record collection for you to mention how much you don't like the particular band being used for the example?

sarramkrop 08.20.2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
Sure. THats fine with me that you think so. I just don't see what it adds to the conversation of ordering a record collection for you to mention how much you don't like the particular band being used for the example?


There's nothing to add, you don't you get it. He was shite. I'm not adding anything to the conversation. Ok?

noisereductions 08.20.2008 03:20 PM

Oh. Ok. Good then.

krastian 08.20.2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
to clarify, yr saying Mothers under Z and then all in chronological?

Yep, everything.


"Help, I'm a cop!"

Semperet 08.20.2008 03:47 PM

They all go under Zappa down my way, and are arranged in numerical order of Rykodisc catalog number. After that they're roughly chronological.

gmku 08.20.2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
Stores tend to just put the Mothers albums in the Zappa section. In your personal collection to you keep them under M for Mothers or Z for Zappa?

And please, no "I keep them under C for Crap" replies or whatever, because frankly, that's just too easy and won't be considered witty or awesome.


Tell me first of all how resolving this will dramatically improve your life or make the world a better place for humanity.

Derek 08.20.2008 05:15 PM

I don't put my collection into any sort of order, too much work.

SuperCreep 08.20.2008 08:24 PM

I have all of my Zappa CD's filed under F and in chronological order.

atsonicpark 08.20.2008 08:36 PM

I had this problem with Frank Black and the Catholics.

As a solution, I just threw all those CD's away.

gmku 08.20.2008 08:43 PM

Same here for The Rolling Stones. File under T for The, R for Rolling, S for Stones, or F for Fucking Cool Shit.

viewtiful_alan 08.20.2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Semperet
They all go under Zappa down my way, and are arranged in numerical order of Rykodisc catalog number. After that they're roughly chronological.

What this man says is also exactly how I do it.

GrungeMonkey 08.21.2008 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I had this problem with Frank Black and the Catholics.

As a solution, I just threw all those CD's away.



haha :D

Death & the Maiden 08.21.2008 05:12 AM

All my music's ordered alphabetically. I used to have trouble with this kind of thing, I didn't know whether I should arrange albums chronologically or alphabetically, eventually I went for the latter. I didn't know if I should put my Syd Barrett stuff with Pink Floyd, but I decided he was good enough to be filed by himself.
If the name on the album is Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention, then it should just go under Z.
By the way, I have Ciccone Youth under C.

noisereductions 08.21.2008 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Tell me first of all how resolving this will dramatically improve your life or make the world a better place for humanity.



Good point. I should probably stop discussing music-related things on a music-related message board. You just saved me time!

gmku 08.21.2008 07:15 AM

Ha, ha, no, no, it just seems a little, well, overly obsessive. I mean, does it make any difference?

noisereductions 08.21.2008 07:24 AM

To me it does, yes. And OF COURSE it's overly obsessive. I surely will not deny that. But yeah, little things about the arrangement of my music collection will really bug me sometimes. THat's why I was curious what other collectors did in such a situation.

Putting Mothers albums under M, is "right" in the sense that THAT's how the band actually wanted those albums to be considered (ie: as Mothers albums, NOT Zappa albums... which is especially obvious when they were Mothers albums released AFTER the band broke up). But at the same time, filing the Mothers albums under Z (considering them as FRANK ZAPPA AND THE MOTHERS) means that all Zappa will remain together so that when I'm in the mood, I can easily look thru one little section.

And really, I just used Zappa as an example. We could be talking about Kool Keith's, MF Doom's or Robert Pollard's hundreds of alter-egos. We could be talking about Bjork/Sugarcubes, Ryan Adams/Whiskeytown/The Finger, 2Pac/Tupac Shakur/Makavelli/Thug Life, or any other band artist who's had one-offs, side-projects, name changes, etc.

gmku 08.21.2008 07:28 AM

I tend to just go with what's on the jacket sleeve/LP spine. If it says "Mothers" instead of "Frank Zappa and the Mothers", for example, it would go in the M section.

I alphabetize by the first letter of the first word in a band's name disregarding articles (e.g., The Beatles go in the B section), but individuals usually by the last name (e.g., John Lennon in the L section).

I'm guessing this is what most of us do.

noisereductions 08.21.2008 07:35 AM

Actually that's exactly how I tend to do it. (going by the spine/cover name).

atsonicpark 08.21.2008 07:45 AM

....

Man, "Valley girl" is a shitty song, eh? They play that at work all the time. Didn't even realize it was Zappa until I looked it up online.

noisereductions 08.21.2008 07:47 AM

You dont like it? I think it's pretty hilarious. I actually just picked up SHIP ARRIVING TOO LATE last week.

noisereductions 08.21.2008 07:52 AM

And where do you work that would play FZ?

atsonicpark 08.21.2008 08:01 AM

A grocery store.

"Valley Girl" was apparently a really popular song, in fact it Zappa's most popular.

atsonicpark 08.21.2008 08:02 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_Girl_(song)

# 32 on the top 40 singles.

So, it's not too bizarre that they'd play that song.


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