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Kuhb 01.18.2019 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
NEW MONASTERY from point of departure is!

didnt get to it yesterday but otw today

will check whole album, thanks!


Enjoy!

The whole of Coltrane Live at the Village Vanguard 1961 recordings are genius and have major Dolphy contributions. With the Tyner/Jones rhythm section too... perfection

choc e-Claire 01.18.2019 03:30 AM

 

'Only Shallow' now has Behind the Lyrics on Spotify.

Also, 'Sometimes' is the best MBV song and you know it.

Bytor Peltor 01.18.2019 04:44 AM

Made a stop at Vinal Edge Wednesday morning. Inside the glass case they had a box of cassettes, most of the stuff I wasn’t familiar with. For $2-$4, I took several chances......starting with this:

Edit: lo-fi anti-harsh noise recorded at various points between September 2012 and November 2013.

 

_slavo_ 01.18.2019 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHCsM1N7jZo

Loop -Radial

One of the best things they've done, in my opinion.


your music taste is something to rely on.

great track, never heard it before.

Antagon 01.18.2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

Also, 'Sometimes' is the best MBV song and you know it.


'Sometimes' is absolutely amazing. I'd tie it with 'When You Sleep' and 'Come In Alone' though. It's so hard to pick a definite favorite with MBV.

Antagon 01.18.2019 04:13 PM

Oi! Going for the hattrick now.

 

 

 

Severian 01.18.2019 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Antagon
Oi! Going for the hattrick now.

 

 

 


YES.

Pink Flag takes the cake as far as ‘70s punk — proper punk, not proto- or post- — is concerned. I listened to “Mannqeuin” yesterday, and it’s still every bit as perfect and exhilarating as it was the first time I heard it.

Chairs Missing and 154 are more post-punk, but goddamn. Still, basically the peak of what was possible with the genre at that time.

“The 15th” is one of the best songs ever.

Enjoy!

Antagon 01.18.2019 06:54 PM

Alright, listened to all of them now. And I might be called a blasphemer, but I did prefer Chairs Missing and 154 over Pink Flag. That might have something to do with my usual listening habits though. I've been very enamoured with the more gothy side of Post-Punk over the last decade (love the combination of a dominant bass-section and murky, ominous atmospheres). And I generally prefer my Punk with a certain extra flavor, whether it may be the Post-, the Dance-, the Art- or whatnot prefix, that's more my forte. Pink Flag is pretty much straightforward Punk. Nothing wrong with that, it just didn't immediately tickle my fancy as much as the other two did. I did however immediately love the drony weirdness and ominous echoes of "Strange" and I thought "Fragile" was a great followup despite the tonal shift, or maybe because of it. I will certainly give it another listen in the future, it might grow on me more with repeated listens. Chairs Missing and 154 however do have that atmospheric tension I seem to gravitate towards, so it was - at least for now - a more instantly gratifying listen. The 15th is great indeed. I generally like the feel and the structure of that particular album - it's positively weird and somewhat psychedelic. Chairs Missing too.

The Soup Nazi 01.18.2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Antagon
Pink Flag is pretty much straightforward Punk.


I disagree. I'm really busy right now and my computer is acting out like the hard drive is gonna burst into flames, so I'll argue my opinion later. :)

evollove 01.18.2019 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Antagon
I might be called a blasphemer


I'm not sure what doctrine is when it comes to ranking the albums individually, but you're certainly going to burn in eternal fire if you don't like the Trilogy as a whole.

My list goes:

Chairs
Pink
154

Pink Flag took me a few listens to get into. It's actually tuneful and witty, but it didn't seem so at first to me.

And I think parts are funny, although no one seems to agree with me.

"I'm tired of being told what to think
I'm tired of being told what to do
I'm tired of fucking phonies, that's right I'm tired of you
Alright, no, no, no, no, no, no, Mr. Suit
No, no, no, no, no, no, Mr. Suit"

Either that's from stupid serious people, or smart joking people. I hear the latter.

I think by taking the piss out of generic punk, they necessarily become "post-punk."

Antagon 01.18.2019 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
I disagree. I'm really busy right now and my computer is acting out like the hard drive is gonna burst into flames, so I'll argue my opinion later. :)


Sure, opinions may vary. And yeah, there is a bit of artsiness sprinkled in there, like "Strange" for instance, which I singled out before. But it's certainly not incorrect to say it's more straightforward Punk than its two followups. At least in terms of sound and presentation. Lyrical content and intentions are something different altogether. Anyway, take care for now. Your computer certainly needs your full attention right now.

Antagon 01.18.2019 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Either that's from stupid serious people, or smart joking people. I hear the latter.

I think by taking the piss out of generic punk, they necessarily become "post-punk."


Yes, they are very tongue-in-cheek. Never doubted that. And I didn't want to pooh-pooh the album, far from it. It just didn't quite cater to my listening sensibilities like the other two did. Opinions can change though. Or they might not. It remains to be seen.

Antagon 01.18.2019 07:35 PM

Right now:
 

Severian 01.18.2019 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Antagon
Alright, listened to all of them now. And I might be called a blasphemer, but I did prefer Chairs Missing and 154 over Pink Flag. That might have something to do with my usual listening habits though. I've been very enamoured with the more gothy side of Post-Punk over the last decade (love the combination of a dominant bass-section and murky, ominous atmospheres). And I generally prefer my Punk with a certain extra flavor, whether it may be the Post-, the Dance-, the Art- or whatnot prefix, that's more my forte. Pink Flag is pretty much straightforward Punk. Nothing wrong with that, it just didn't immediately tickle my fancy as much as the other two did. I did however immediately love the drony weirdness and ominous echoes of "Strange" and I thought "Fragile" was a great followup despite the tonal shift, or maybe because of it. I will certainly give it another listen in the future, it might grow on me more with repeated listens. Chairs Missing and 154 however do have that atmospheric tension I seem to gravitate towards, so it was - at least for now - a more instantly gratifying listen. The 15th is great indeed. I generally like the feel and the structure of that particular album - it's positively weird and somewhat psychedelic. Chairs Missing too.


There are no wrong answers here, but Pink Flag is not straightforward punk.

It falls distinctly into the one or more of the avant- subareas at pretty much all times.

Dance-? Check. Art-? Check. It’s even got its atmospheric moments.

It’s not “Never Mind the Bollocks” ... or “The Clash.” Even at their first release, Wire was already well into the bizarro corners of the genre.

Yes, it’s punk. But it’s also more than that.

Might take multiple listens for that to resonate, but I think it will.

Antagon 01.18.2019 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
There are no wrong answers here, but Pink Flag is not straightforward punk.

It falls distinctly into the one or more of the avant- subareas at pretty much all times.

Dance-? Check. Art-? Check. It’s even got its atmospheric moments.

It’s not “Never Mind the Bollocks” ... or “The Clash.” Even at their first release, Wire was already well into the bizarro corners of the genre.

Yes, it’s punk. But it’s also more than that.

Might take multiple listens for that to resonate, but I think it will.


I'll certainly listen to it again. Maybe it'll click more then. Wouldn't be the first time. The Sound's "From The Lions Mouth" was such a case (which I absolutely adore these days, like top-tier love), or NYC Ghosts & Flowers if we're talking the Youff. But the latter is still a very divisive album. I digress. Yeah, it's not exactly like any of those bands. It's less poppy than a lot of those early Punk bands. It's more the speed and the overall approach that have lead me to conclude that. But yeah, it's more unkempt and certainly has a weird edge over said contemporaries. I can see that.

Antagon 01.18.2019 10:03 PM

Alright, now I've talked myself into listening to this thing of beauty again. It'll be a nightcapper.
 

Savage Clone 01.18.2019 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Antagon
Alright, now I've talked myself into listening to this thing of beauty again. It'll be a nightcapper.
 



Love The Sound so much!

Bytor Peltor 01.18.2019 10:17 PM

Red Aunts’ Debi Martini Has Died......bandmates Terri Wahl, Kerry Davis, and Lesley Ishino confirmed

Antagon 01.19.2019 03:43 PM

Lots of reading again today. So: Ambient Saturday!

 


 


 

Antagon 01.19.2019 03:44 PM

And the latest
 


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