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Genteel Death 06.13.2010 10:40 AM

now independent thinkers are considered diseased by psychiatry
 
http://www.naturalnews.com/028803_ps...y_disease.html

hevusa 06.13.2010 11:04 AM

take yr pills and shut it!

Genteel Death 06.13.2010 11:26 AM

What pills?

pbradley 06.13.2010 11:31 AM

A 'natural health' website citing only The Washington Post.

I'm skeptical that this article isn't exaggerating the normality of what these additions are referring to and I don't trust George Will, The Washing Post columnist, to speak authoritatively on the subject of psychiatry. I would like to see the peer-reviewership around the additions.

ni'k 06.13.2010 11:35 AM

i love my doctor. he lobotomised my grandfather and electro shocked and tranquillized my dad into catatonia. now whenever i watch x factor and feel depressed i realise that there must be something wrong with ME and know that the good old doc can fix my broken brain with his ssri's. i slur my speech and am already showing signs of parkinsons from them but its all worth it because now i can sit in my dark bedroom slurping down 2 litre cokes and 12 packs of walkers and have x factor on and feel GREAT haha so GREAT SO HAPPY I ENJOY MY LIFE.

Genteel Death 06.13.2010 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
A 'natural health' website citing only The Washington Post.

I'm skeptical that this article isn't exaggerating the normality of what these additions are referring to and I don't trust George Will, The Washing Post columnist, to speak authoritatively on the subject of psychiatry. I would like to see the peer-reviewership around the additions.

I'll give you a clue.
The DSM is published by the American Psychiatric Association. Check any online document that is issued by them like, for instance, the DSM protocols.

pbradley 06.13.2010 12:04 PM

When I say "peer-reviewership" I mean the academic criticism of the DSM.

Genteel Death 06.13.2010 12:09 PM

What's that got to do with it, may I ask? Essays and journals on the subject are also easily found online, if that's what you're saying.

knox 06.13.2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
i love my doctor. he lobotomised my grandfather and electro shocked and tranquillized my dad into catatonia. now whenever i watch x factor and feel depressed i realise that there must be something wrong with ME and know that the good old doc can fix my broken brain with his ssri's. i slur my speech and am already showing signs of parkinsons from them but its all worth it because now i can sit in my dark bedroom slurping down 2 litre cokes and 12 packs of walkers and have x factor on and feel GREAT haha so GREAT SO HAPPY I ENJOY MY LIFE.


dont make me envy you.

pbradley 06.13.2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
What's that got to do with it, may I ask?

I really don't know how to answer this, precisely, because I figure that qualified criticism of the DSM has everything to do with a reliable criticism of the DSM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Essays and journals on the subject are also easily found online, if that's what you're saying.

So why the blog echo of a Washington Post article if you could easily find something more substantial than a conservative commentator with a 'for the children' emotional appeal?

space 06.13.2010 12:35 PM

adding more signs and symptoms to a diagnostic codebook is a step in the right direction, if you are, say, someone who is against pidgeonholing people's minds.

now, if you are a hyper-reactive layman-ninny, sure, I can see how that could be seen as troublesome.

let's hope for future editions of the DSM to include dx codes for "hyper-reactive layman-ninny", as I suspect that's one they neglected to include, but surely, deserves attention.

Genteel Death 06.13.2010 12:39 PM

Because it's news. The opinion of who reported it I can take or leave. I agree the website has some articles on it that are plain loopy. The way they reported these news isn't totally hysterical though. So, how come you need the insightful views of an academic before you form an opinion on news that cross-referencing and research would establish as a true story?
Edit- pbradley

pbradley 06.13.2010 12:57 PM

Really, I don't especially care about this particular article, nor even this particular topic, but the sensational title pressed all of my skeptical buttons.

And it's not that I need the insight of any academic but those of who are actively involved in the field of psychiatry today. As the DSM is a product of the profession, I would expect there to be professional voices that could both elucidate the additions as well as provide educated counter positions. Specialized language often gets confused by common interpretation which might produce news where there really isn't any.

space 06.13.2010 01:27 PM

my point is, the DSM is just the psyche-industry's companion to physical-medicine's standardized ICD code book. the more codes, the better.

here's a snippet:

Terrorism (injury) (by) (in) (involving) -laser(s) U01.8


chillax, go back to bed, enjoy sunday. tomorrow might bring terrorists with lasers.

hevusa 06.13.2010 01:30 PM

More Pills!!!!!!!
Pills for everyone!

space 06.13.2010 01:31 PM

FROM THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION

Air

-blast in terrorism U01.2

Asphyxia, asphyxiation

-by
--chemical in terrorism U01.7
---in terrorism U01.3

Bayonet wound W26.-

-in
--terrorism U01.8

Crushed X59.-

-between objects (moving) (stationary and moving)
----in terrorism U01.1


Cut, cutting (any part of body) (by) (see also Contact, with, by object or machine) W49.-

-terrorism U01.8


Drowning (accidental) W74.-

-in
--terrorism U01.8


Exposure to

--in, of, on, starting in
---terrorism (by fire-producing device) U01.3

Injury, injured NEC

-by, caused by, from
--terrorism - see Terrorism
-due to
--terrorism - see Terrorism

Jumped, jumping

-from
----in terrorism U01.3

Suicide, suicidal (attempted) (by) X84.-
-in terrorism U01.4

etc etc etc


terrorist disease is....everywhere!!

kierkegaarden 06.13.2010 02:03 PM

If you think independently, others by extension must; when they can't, they call you the anomaly. Ha. I love it.

knox 06.13.2010 02:10 PM

space echelon is all over you now

space 06.13.2010 03:34 PM

Dear Friend,

I am Echelon.

Love,

Node_00

!@#$%! 06.13.2010 04:25 PM

more interested than that, there's an article in "the nation" about the forced psychiatric confinement of former sex offenders who have completed their sentences on the basis of "mental abnormality" defined very vague psychiatric "symptoms" such as "has no formal work history" or "is now married".

http://www.thenation.com/article/what-weve-become


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