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Diesel 01.05.2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
you don't know what the fuck yr talkign about. Anyone who thinks Octo is his best album has boring ears. Go watch MTV or something.


Bit discriminating that innit

noisereductions 01.05.2011 03:55 PM

not at all, if you listen to other Keith albums enough (like First Come First Serve) then you'll see what I mean.

Diesel 01.05.2011 04:03 PM

I tried to like it a few years back but found the beats were weak. They were repetitively boring and ultimately lacked base. Black Elvis was marginally better.

..anyway i don't wanna slag keith off, cos he's keith. I prefer to ignore...unless i'm pissed, so figure that one out.

noisereductions 01.05.2011 06:56 PM

the Dooom beats are fantastic. I don't know what you're hearing. Relisten to "No Chorus" at least.

Black Elvis definitely has some great beats too. Same year.

The Earl Of Slander 01.05.2011 08:00 PM

Anyone who could listen to 'Dr Dooom's In The Room' and complain that the album has no good beats is... well I just don't understand it at all.

Cooking With Satan 01.06.2011 06:01 AM

Lost Masters is great.

Trey Spruance review from 2004:

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Lost Masters

You know what pissed us off? It was when that Dr. Octagon album came out ages ago and everyone liked it & that was all good. But then they released the "remix" album, which was just Dan (Automator) Nakamura's tracks without the rapping, and all the hipsters were saying how much "better" that one was — sure, it made them feel special that they weren't like all the other white & Asian kids who got into Dr. Octagon — they had the remix, wow. Horseshit. Kool Keith rules.

It's been a good long time, and the hipsters have completely lost interest in Kool Keith while he's been putting out some great CDs under their upturned noses. We don't care what anyone says, we've heard no one in the meantime that's come along who's as brilliant, lightning sharp, right on the money and hilarious as this guy — especially on the CD the Lost Masters. It's supposed to be a collection of second rate tracks, but I don?t buy it. There are some sequels theme-wise to some of the stuff on Spankmaster and Sex Styles, but when has that not been the case? That's how genius works. And it works to the point of being almost scary here. Now, we're as sick as anyone of the "vulgar" words being overused incessantly in our hip-hop saturated world. And lame-ass toilet humor is really tired, but man, don't put this into any category like that. There's mania here that goes way beyond shock/schlock or any other such lame crutch —at the risk of over-analyzing the sublime nature of the lyrics, consider for instance this chorus:

New York City
We piss in it
We live in it
We die...
We all take shits in it

You could be forgiven for writing this off at first glance as dumb poo poo humour and not the post-apocalyptic Haiku that is actually is. But as Keith delivers this unironic mantra repeatedly, he strikes some obscure vein in the cultural feng shui perfectly enough to trigger us into some kind of vortex state where it just gets more and more incredible, funnier and funnier, and more real and "in the moment" than anything previously imaginable. I mean, is that even funny? Read it again.

Keith has an unparalleled ability to deliver this kind of stuff. He takes us to a higher mental octave — and shit, piss, fuck etc. are there in that octave, so don't kid yourself. It's just that no one knows how to get there, so how would we know? Suck it in and Keith show you the way. Man, we haven't laughed this hard since Neil Hamburger came through town.

EvdWee 01.06.2011 07:35 AM

ah, so that's why kool keith and neil hamburger both played Patton/Melvins ATP

Cooking With Satan 01.06.2011 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EvdWee
ah, so that's why kool keith and neil hamburger both played Patton/Melvins ATP


Patton is a friend of "Neil Hamburger" and is also a big Kool Keith fan.

noisereductions 01.06.2011 08:27 AM

I think Lost Masters is so-so.

Derek 04.10.2011 11:22 AM

Best rapper ever? I think so.

Is Cooking With Satan some large musician going undercover? He knows a lot of inside info it seems..

noisereductions 04.10.2011 04:07 PM

Best Rapper Ever????

no. Far from it. I love Kool Keith. Waaaay more than a normal person. But in no way would I ever agree with that statement.

Derek 04.10.2011 04:26 PM

Coolest rapper? Most insane rapper? Swaggest rapper?

noisereductions 04.10.2011 08:05 PM

I'd say spaciest rapper. Or Most Self-Assured rapper. Maybe MAYBE most interest rapper. Craziest rapper. Uniquest rapper.

noisereductions 04.10.2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander
Anyone who could listen to 'Dr Dooom's In The Room' and complain that the album has no good beats is... well I just don't understand it at all.


First Come First Served is a fucking masterpiece. It is BY FAR the best thing Keith has ever done. I have a handful of MUST OWN albums by him. But FCFS is un-fuckking-believable

Derek 04.11.2011 07:51 AM

I like First Come First Served a lot but I don't think it's the classic some of you are making it out to be. As far as Kool Keith goes, I don't think he's made any classic albums but he's always consistent.

Derek 04.11.2011 08:02 PM

None of you will agree but this is my favourite Kool Keith album so far:

 


EDIT: Actually this seems like a popular one.

noisereductions 04.11.2011 08:59 PM

^yeah that's a really popular one. I like it a lot. My favorites are First Come and Undertakerz though.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.29.2011 11:12 AM

I really like Spankmaster because of Yes Yes Y'all with Esham.


 



Although Keith has a great flow, and is obviously one of the more intelligent emcees out there - I really have to be in the mood for him, or else he can be off-putting. But I really like his voice, it's very unique, and Dr. Dooom rules!

Oh, and his verse on Esham's Tongues! Hell yeah Kool Keith.

noisereductions 04.29.2011 11:39 AM

Spankmaster has great production.

Dr. Dooom's First Come First Served it by far my fav.

Joe have you heard Thee Undatakerz? You'd love it. Kool Keith horrorcore. Brillaint record. My 2nd fav.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.29.2011 11:53 AM

Will definitely check it out NR.

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