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Pookie 08.09.2012 04:53 AM

RIP Robert Hughes
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euPx2QWVl3E

gast30 08.14.2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie

he could also speak of movement of poor to rich or rich to poor
where humans are now living in
instead of thinking that people wil be interested in politic information or other information
it is more simpel because humans are indoctorinated to the everyday use of money
as i have seen the news today that art is been stolen in greece, afganistan and syria and now as we speak is on it's way to private artcollects

you can say all goes fast
when this history needs to be recorded to give a clear image of happenings during these times to the next generations that going to be on school
( who now start to learn on tablets )

this all interest me
because i find the artworld weak to extreem weak
to be clear what position they take on how to look at art and the ethics of art trade awarnes
support to the artworld
if it is not it becomes art destructive
and tons of money will go into arms, boms, indocterination of hate

and what then
explain those AGAIN
with art
there is no time

get stupid by it
i keep try'ing and try'ing till the artworld reacts and becomes clear in who they are
and what the basic is
the new day already began and many more days will follow

!@#$%! 08.14.2012 08:25 PM

gastro, do you make good pizza, or just so-so?

!@#$%! 08.14.2012 08:27 PM

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who the fuck is that and who is "them" and who is "us"? this is fucking fascinating at so many levels. are there whole programs of this? where?????

tell us more pookie-- did you grow up watching this stuff? im seriously asking! americans got shit like "cosmos" or national geographic.

demonrail666 08.15.2012 03:58 PM

Robert Hughes is a bit of an institution. I remember seeing repeats of his series, Shock of the New, when I was growing up and it was probably the first serious discussion of art that I'd seen on TV (or, given my age, probably anywhere).

You can see most of the full episodes on youtube now. They still hold up. Hughes would inevitable give way to more chummy, down-with-the-kids presenters but I love his rather po-faced aloofness.

Ep 1 of Shock of the New.

Pookie 08.15.2012 04:59 PM

I know him more through his books but have started watching some of his TV stuff via Youtube.

Very unfashionable presenting style. I suppose only BBC4 would potentially find room for him if he were still making programmes.

Also, could you change your avatar, it's very disturbing.

evollove 08.15.2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
who the fuck is that and who is "them" and who is "us"? this is fucking fascinating at so many levels. are there whole programs of this? where?????

tell us more pookie-- did you grow up watching this stuff? im seriously asking! americans got shit like "cosmos" or national geographic.


this exactly

Sometimes I'm insanely jealous of the Brits. I'm not sure they understand how good they have it. I mean, there are some British people who are sick of Stephen Fry, and Americans still haven't figured out what to do with him. Can you imagine QI in the States? Even on PBS?

Pookie 08.15.2012 05:38 PM

Incidentally, Hughes was Australian but lived in the UK from the 1965.
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this exactly

Sometimes I'm insanely jealous of the Brits. I'm not sure they understand how good they have it. I mean, there are some British people who are sick of Stephen Fry, and Americans still haven't figured out what to do with him. Can you imagine QI in the States? Even on PBS?

What we have in the UK that you don't have, is public service broadcasting (the BBC).

demonrail666 08.15.2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
I know him more through his books but have started watching some of his TV stuff via Youtube.

Very unfashionable presenting style. I suppose only BBC4 would potentially find room for him if he were still making programmes.


He's seriously outdated but in a really nice way, I think. I miss that quite condescending tone. Alan Wicker was another one. Borderline unfriendly.

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Also, could you change your avatar, it's very disturbing.

Haha. Assuming you're serious. OK

Pookie 08.16.2012 04:18 PM

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He's seriously outdated but in a really nice way, I think. I miss that quite condescending tone. Alan Wicker was another one. Borderline unfriendly.

I know what you mean.
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Haha. Assuming you're serious. OK

Half serious. It was disturbing but wasn't too upset. Thanks anyway. An act of kindness indeed...

the ikara cult 08.16.2012 04:21 PM

You can watch the whole series of "The Shock of the New" here

Robert Hughes (1938-2012)

A classic eight part documentary that offers a comprehensive view on the development of modernist art in its cultural context. It focusses minly on painting and sculpting but pays some attention to architecture as well. The documentary is presented and narrated by the art critic Robert Hughes, whose views on modernism have left an unmistakable stamp on the film. It was originally aired by the BBC.

demonrail666 08.16.2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
this exactly

Sometimes I'm insanely jealous of the Brits. I'm not sure they understand how good they have it. I mean, there are some British people who are sick of Stephen Fry, and Americans still haven't figured out what to do with him. Can you imagine QI in the States? Even on PBS?


I've always thought Stephen Fry would go down a storm in the US.

the ikara cult 08.16.2012 05:45 PM

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I've always thought Stephen Fry would go down a storm in the US.


Julie Burchill calls him "A stupid person's idea of what a clever person is"

I like Stephen Fry, but i think theres alot to be said for that view.

Pookie 08.16.2012 05:55 PM

I love Julie Burchill.

demonrail666 08.16.2012 05:57 PM

Me too. She's always struck me as being rather filthy.

Genteel Death 08.16.2012 06:00 PM

Julie Burchill is the stupid version of an intelligent retard.

demonrail666 08.16.2012 06:03 PM

I tend to go for that type

Pookie 08.16.2012 06:09 PM

I think we all go for the filthy stupid intelligent retard if we're being honest.

!@#$%! 08.16.2012 06:29 PM

i started watching the picasso show the other day it was awesome! i couldn't finish but i will when i get a chance. brilliant!

i love good, stodgy commentary.

demonrail666 08.16.2012 06:31 PM

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I think we all go for the filthy stupid intelligent retard if we're being honest.


The hard part is finding one who goes for me.


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