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keep poppin pimples 10.12.2011 12:13 PM

the problems of CANADA
 
there are none, it's fun. l'hockey! le sirop d'erable!


 

 

knox 10.12.2011 12:31 PM

it does look like a paradise for most of us.
they're still holding these conferences asking for people to apply to work there and this time i'm seriously considering? despite the fact that the application procedure is supposed to cost a lot.

startur 10.12.2011 12:54 PM

go flames go

vulva 10.12.2011 12:55 PM

proud2becanadian

floatingslowly 10.12.2011 01:01 PM

ice and snow.

gtfo

vulva 10.12.2011 01:03 PM

snow is kinda gdlk

floatingslowly 10.12.2011 01:21 PM

- inferior tacos
- møøse bites
- Justin Bieber

jon boy 10.12.2011 01:30 PM

largest drug use in north america, hiv rates through the roof, largest gap between the rich and poor, poorest zip code in north america, standard of living below some third world countries.


 


 

keep poppin pimples 10.12.2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
it does look like a paradise for most of us.
they're still holding these conferences asking for people to apply to work there and this time i'm seriously considering? despite the fact that the application procedure is supposed to cost a lot.



what cities are they sending people to?

honestly you might as well try it, it's boring enough to induce psychotic depression in those of us who have been somewhere else.... but if you haven't been here before it could take years to get to that point

davenotdead 10.12.2011 01:30 PM

too much frenchtalk
too much syrup

keep poppin pimples 10.12.2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
standard of living below some third world countries.









can you provide some details here? vancouver has a very high standard of living.


so i'm guessing when you say below some third world countries.... you must be comparing a homeless person in vancouver to an average person in the third world? that doesn't make sense

i definitely agree that being homeless and having hiv is pretty shitty, but anytime you compare canada to some third world countries you're talking out of yr ass. i'm not even from a third world country and i've seen plenty of people who would do anything to live as well as a far below-average person in canada (i'm saying 'i've seen' if you take out the actual observation part, i'm assuming the majority of the world population falls into that category)

it seems really sensationalist to me, can you point me to a country where the homeless live well? if no then i don't really see it as canada being shittier than anywhere else, although this particular country at least has the resources to fix those problems, assuming rich pricks ever decide it's worth it, in the third world they can't realistically fix any of their problems, because they're caused mostly by foreign exploitation, and because nato would free the fuck out of them if there was any whimper in the government of perhaps telling the world bank to fuck off

floatingslowly 10.12.2011 01:54 PM

- ice road truckers
- ice roads
- ice
- eskimos

jon boy 10.12.2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
can you provide some details here? vancouver has a very high standard of living.


so i'm guessing when you say below some third world countries.... you must be comparing a homeless person in vancouver to an average person in the third world? that doesn't make sense

i definitely agree that being homeless and having hiv is pretty shitty, but anytime you compare canada to some third world countries you're talking out of yr ass. i'm not even from a third world country and i've seen plenty of people who would do anything to live as well as a far below-average person in canada (i'm saying 'i've seen' if you take out the actual observation part, i'm assuming the majority of the world population falls into that category)

it seems really sensationalist to me, can you point me to a country where the homeless live well? if no then i don't really see it as canada being shittier than anywhere else, although this particular country at least has the resources to fix those problems, assuming rich pricks ever decide it's worth it, in the third world they can't realistically fix any of their problems, because they're caused mostly by foreign exploitation, and because nato would free the fuck out of them if there was any whimper in the government of perhaps telling the world bank to fuck off


as i work with the homeless, drug addicted and downtrodden i can say that it certainly sounds as if your 'talking out of your ass'. the hiv rate is astounding in this city as is the hep c infection rate. thanks to places like insite that has dropped, as has the overdose death rate. vancouver has the richest and the poorest.

perhaps you should come check it out and see for yourself before making knee jerk reactions that point out your obvious lack of knowledge on the subject. but hey this is the sy gossip forum.

At an estimated 40%, the HIV infection rate in the Downtown Eastside is the highest in the industrialised world, on par with the impoverished African nation of Botswana.

keep poppin pimples 10.12.2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
as i work with the homeless, drug addicted and downtrodden i can say that it certainly sounds as if your 'talking out of your ass'. the hiv rate is astounding in this city as is the hep c infection rate. thanks to places like insite that has dropped, as has the overdose death rate. vancouver has the richest and the poorest.

perhaps you should come check it out and see for yourself before making knee jerk reactions that point out your obvious lack of knowledge on the subject. but hey this is the sy gossip forum.



check it out myself?

how long have you lived in canada? i was a day labourer for years and i've met plenty of vancouver hobos.

when you say the standard of living is lower than some third world countries it's insulting and priviledged as fuck

answer the first question now, where is this standard of living statement coming from

are you saying that vancouver is a bad place because homeless people have a worse standard of living than people with houses in other places? comparing the very worst in one country to the average in another makes no sense. poor people in vancouver have dudes like you who work to help them. the poorest people in iraq had saddam to gas them...which country would you rather live in?

i don't give a fuck about yr first hand experience as i have more than enough of my own.

as an actual immigrant(not a cutie from the colonial mothership like yrself) i can speak pretty confidently that the standard of living in canada is not worse than most places, let alone the third world.

the people you work with, have somebody to help them, if they didn't live in canada they would be probably be dead or in jail.


do your thing to make canada a better place to live, but doin't compare it to the third world because that shit is silly

jon boy 10.12.2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
check it out myself?

how long have you lived in canada? i was a day labourer for years and i've met plenty of vancouver hobos.

when you say the standard of living is lower than some third world countries it's insulting and priviledged as fuck

answer the first question now, where is this standard of living statement coming from

are you saying that vancouver is a bad place because homeless people have a worse standard of living than people with houses in other places? comparing the very worst in one country to the average in another makes no sense. poor people in vancouver have dudes like you who work to help them. the poorest people in iraq had saddam to gas them...which country would you rather live in?

i don't give a fuck about yr first hand experience as i have more than enough of my own.

as an actual immigrant(not a cutie from the colonial mothership like yrself) i can speak pretty confidently that the standard of living in canada is not worse than most places, let alone the third world.

the people you work with, have somebody to help them, if they didn't live in canada they would be probably be dead or in jail.


do your thing to make canada a better place to live, but doin't compare it to the third world because that shit is silly


sounds like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder.

a day laborer, phhff too posh to work the night shift huh?

keep poppin pimples 10.12.2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy

At an estimated 40%, the HIV infection rate in the Downtown Eastside is the highest in the industrialised world, on par with the impoverished African nation of Botswana.



do you see what you're doing here, you're comparing a small(and far from typical) part of a single city

to an entire country.

it's not a realistic way to look at things.

in botswana people have high hiv infection rates....everywhere, not just skid row


Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
a day laborer, phhff too posh to work the night shift huh?



you don't know the half I WANT TO WORK THE NIGHT SHIFT BUT NOBODY WANTS TO HIRE ME WAAHHHH

i did have a chip on my shoulder, since my pa had to give up his whole life (literally if caught) to emigrate to canada and be broke here. if you live in canada the society is definitely holding you back and fucking up yr life, but a lot less than it would anywhere else

jon boy 10.12.2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
do you see what you're doing here, you're comparing a small(and far from typical) part of a single city

to an entire country.

it's not a realistic way to look at things.

in botswana people have high hiv infection rates....everywhere, not just skid row


who said i was comparing an area of a city too an entire country?

read the reports on the subject and stop being such a victim.

so if you lived there and know all these people tell me where the portland is, where the carnegie is, where blood alley is. do you know, or have ever been in insite?

Inhuman 10.12.2011 02:22 PM

In comparison to the rest of Canada, vancouver is quite a drug-addicted place. Meth flourishes there where it's unheard of here - also the high availability of H. Canada's a great country and all, just Vancouver just happens to have more junkies and methheads.

jon boy 10.12.2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
do you see what you're doing here, you're comparing a small(and far from typical) part of a single city

to an entire country.

it's not a realistic way to look at things.

in botswana people have high hiv infection rates....everywhere, not just skid row


just look at the original post in your thread. go on just have a quick glance.

keep poppin pimples 10.12.2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
just look at the original post in your thread. go on just have a quick glance.



and see what


that you think because there's a high hiv rate in the neighbourhood where the shelters are


that it's comparable to entire countries where hiv is equally prevalent....in every neighbourhood?


it doesn't really make sense to compare it to the third world, yes it does indeed show that there is a problem with in the borders of canada... but.... you know.... when i said canada is perfect and backed it up with pictures of big red trucks and beaver shaped pillows, i was only being like 86% serious


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