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a baby in 1980 05.09.2019 05:51 PM

New reviews of "five important Sonic Youth records" on Pitchfork.
 
EVOL (9.4) "If Daydream Nation is Sonic Youthís opus, EVOL was crucial research."

Sister
(9.8) "a gloriously climactic finish to the quartet of albums that followed Sonic Youthís eponymous debut EP"

Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star (6.8) "about the limbo between begrudging aspiration for pop success and the relief in discovering it was never meant to be."

Washing Machine
(8.5) "Their squall had softened into sparkles. At least sometimes."

A Thousand Leaves (7.6) "A polarizing harvest" - "reveals a group that was still full of creative ambition nearly two decades into its career"

Severian 05.09.2019 06:00 PM

I saw this.

I could have sworn ATL had an 8+ rating before. But when I search, I can’t find it.

Certainly deserves an 8+ rating.

And EVOL deserves a 10
And Sister deserves a 10

Why did they do this again? I’m ashamed to admit it, but if this is an important date in SY history, I’ve been out of touch so long I’ve forgotten what the significance is.

Severian 05.09.2019 06:01 PM

Oh shit, I didn’t see the EJST&NS rating

That’s cold.
7.5 at least.

I mean, for me it’s an 8, but I can see how it wouldn’t be for everyone.

Morons.

a baby in 1980 05.09.2019 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Oh shit, I didnít see the EJST&NS rating

Thatís cold.
7.5 at least.

I mean, for me itís an 8, but I can see how it wouldnít be for everyone.

Morons.



I love EJS to bits. A rating of 6.8 is abominably low imo.

>TNS< 05.09.2019 10:53 PM

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The album begins with “Becuz,” a nasty romp led by Gordon’s groovy bass playing and her whispered sneer.


bass playing?

Severian 05.10.2019 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by >TNS<
bass playing?


Yeah, not sure about that one.
Upturned bass, or way, way, way up on the fretboard, but it sounds more like a guitar. I am not a gearhead, so I canít properly say.

Peterpuff 05.22.2019 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >TNS<
bass playing?


If I remember reading correctly, isn't this the album she really started picking up the guitar more? Playing it through her bass rig?

I also wonder why, if doing this anyways, they did not go back and correct their abysmal NYCG&F fuckup.

Peterpuff 05.22.2019 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a baby in 1980
I love EJS to bits. A rating of 6.8 is abominably low imo.


/agreed

themawt71 05.27.2019 07:49 AM

it's definitely a guitar on becuz.

Severian 05.27.2019 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by themawt71
it's definitely a guitar on becuz.


There’s bass on the track, but the lead riff is not a bass.

Gearheads correct me if I’m wrong. Haven’t been a gearhead in a minute, but pretty sure it’s not a bass.


It wasn’t Kim’s playing of the bass that I took issue with. Kim has played plenty of both bass and guitar, but mostly bass. But I’m almost certain the riff on Becuz is not bass-led

[EDIT: There’s no bass on the track and I forgot that because sometimes I don’t listen to SY for a while. Jesus fucking Christ.]

themawt71 05.27.2019 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Thereís bass on the track, but the lead riff is not a bass.

Gearheads correct me if Iím wrong. Havenít been a gearhead in a minute, but pretty sure itís not a bass.


It wasnít Kimís playing of the bass that I took issue with. Kim has played plenty of both bass and guitar, but mostly bass. But Iím almost certain the riff on Becuz is not bass-led



If you watch the song live there is no bass on it and it doesn't sound like there is anything missing.

_tunic_ 05.28.2019 02:42 AM

The gearography site also shows she plays the guitar on Becuz:
http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/eq/gearsets.html
scroll down to 01/16/96, and click on "guitar" in the Kim column. It will open this page http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/eq/gtr49.html


and also: http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/sy/song125.html
and here are the tabs: http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/becuz.txt (which I can't really understand, except that I guess she only plays two of the strings)


but yeah, when you hear the song it does sound like she's playing bass. Here's a video, of the coda where you can see how she plays the notes, it looks she's playing only the strings for the high notes, or where the high notes should normally be in regular tuning (the bottom ones, hey I don't know how else to explain this): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G48K...youtu.be&t=255


let's just conclude that she's playing bass on a regular guitar :)

Severian 05.28.2019 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themawt71
If you watch the song live there is no bass on it and it doesn't sound like there is anything missing.



OK. Itís been a while since I sat and listened intently to Sonic Youth. Maybe thereís no bass. Idk

whorefrost 05.29.2019 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
OK. Itís been a while since I sat and listened intently to Sonic Youth. Maybe thereís no bass. Idk

There's no bass

Severian 05.29.2019 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whorefrost
There's no bass


Yah yah, listened after posting this. I know I know.

greenlight 05.29.2019 10:11 AM

guitar via bass amp

Genteel Death 05.29.2019 12:00 PM

Everyone knows there is no bass on that track.

Severian 05.29.2019 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Everyone knows there is no bass on that track.


Not the writer of the article.

Or me for a sec.

So ... yíknow ... shhh

scott v 05.29.2019 09:59 PM

Kim's guitar tuning on becuz is BEGDBB... all the strings are detuned from standard tuning, most of the strings are at least 2.5 whole steps down and the high strings even more since the high E is tuned in unison to the B which is not a standard pitch B but a whole octave lower... to summarize yeah thats easily "baritone" territory making it sound like a bass. String gages used have got to be wicked heavy.

Back to to the original topic, I don't know why Pitchfork is "revisiting" these albums, as they also seem to be do this for "classic" albums of significance by various bands/artists. They must not be finding enough current music to review or something or trying to bring important music/bands/music back to the fore.

Genteel Death 05.30.2019 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Not the writer of the article.

Or me for a sec.

So ... yíknow ... shhh


Call yourself a real Sonic Youth fan!


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