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dazedcola 07.30.2008 11:29 AM

Best Buy To Start Selling Vinyl
 
Well, folks, prepare to purchase your vinyl without an old coat of dust and poor independent record store lighting — your baby’s returning to the big time. Vinyl, the long-thought dead and "outdated" form of musical storage and presentation, is getting a test tryout at select Best Buy stores. Could this be the first tiny step for mainstream vinyl reemergence? Will this be the crossing of the Rubicon for the endless and non-profitable war between CDs and LPs? Will I have to start buying my records at Best Buy once they inevitably overtake the market and control all distribution chains with their massive bulk-quantity discount-buying? Am I over-exaggerating?


However surprising this may seem, it isn’t really unexpected: vinyl has been quietly (and with a fuller sound!) resurging back into the populace (TMT News). According to Jackie Crosby of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, vinyl makes up only 0.2% of total sales compared to 90% of CDs, amounting to nearly one million units sold. This may seem small for an entire format, but that “nearly one million” is a 15%(!) increase and the highest level in three years, according to Nielsen Sound Scan.


Crosby goes on to further explain that Best Buy’s willingness to give this old war horse another shot is due to the growing demand and sales figures from local Minneapolis record stores. She also illustrates that, contrary to popular belief, vinyl music cannot be directly copied to a digital format (except for the many models of record players built for that specific purpose, obviously) and points to the growing amount of hip, young artists who are simultaneously releasing their work on CD, LP, and digital formats.


Best Buy states that this “test” will take place “at an undisclosed amount of locations... to avoid artificially tipping the scales.”
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You think vinyl might start picking up again? Im sure plenty of people here get new vinyl every year.

marleypumpkin 07.30.2008 11:42 AM

FUCK! This ruins it for all of us who worked their ass off building a vinyl collection the correct way.

atsonicpark 07.30.2008 01:06 PM

yeah i heard about this, nutty.

mangajunky 07.30.2008 01:25 PM

fuck Best Buy - buy local

nicfit 07.30.2008 01:36 PM

you mean in your local best buy?

Glice 07.30.2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marleypumpkin
FUCK! This ruins it for all of us who worked their ass off building a vinyl collection the correct way.


What the fuck kind of an arse-backwards way of thinking is this? What, precisely, is wrong with people being able to buy something, somewhere? Vinyl in itself is a medium, it's not the some sanctified holy grail.

StevOK 07.30.2008 01:40 PM

Well, I'm glad that the movement is coming along. I really need to look at my local record shops.

nomowish 07.30.2008 11:01 PM

But will the people who ordinarily buy from Local Record Stores want to support a chain?

atsonicpark 07.30.2008 11:02 PM

People get too caught up in aesthetical or political purposes behind their music listening and purchasing habits. Just listen to what you like, get it where you want.

Everyneurotic 07.30.2008 11:33 PM

the new indie thing is sheet music.

"behold! i found an original 1937 reissue sheet of gershwin's "rapsody in blue". i'm indier than you!!"

acousticrock87 07.30.2008 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
the new indie thing is sheet music.

"behold! i found an original 1937 reissue sheet of gershwin's "rapsody in blue". i'm indier than you!!"

That's brilliant. I would do that to the next indie kid that shows off his vinyl, but I fear starting an actual trend.

marleypumpkin 07.30.2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
What the fuck kind of an arse-backwards way of thinking is this? What, precisely, is wrong with people being able to buy something, somewhere? Vinyl in itself is a medium, it's not the some sanctified holy grail.


Okay, the next thing you know, they'll be selling vinyl at Wal-Mart. Would you go to a Wal-Mart to buy yr music? Or anything for that matter. Best Buy is just a corporate whore trying to get in on a piece of the pie, & you can't see why that would piss me off.

Everyneurotic 07.30.2008 11:47 PM

southern lord will begin to publish sunn o))) albums in tab form: papirus paper and printed in fine ink, signed by the publisher and binded in wooden covers; limited edition of 40.

"softcover edition coming soon!"

and about two thirds of the tab will be the same riff over and over.

atsonicpark 07.30.2008 11:48 PM

You know that money is what motivates every business right?

Who cares where people shop, what brand of clothes people buy, what music people listens to, what format people listen to the music on, etc etc etc. I buy cd-r's at walmart.. they're cheap and work great. Who gives a fuck?

HaydenAsche 07.30.2008 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
What the fuck kind of an arse-backwards way of thinking is this? What, precisely, is wrong with people being able to buy something, somewhere? Vinyl in itself is a medium, it's not the some sanctified holy grail.


Truth. Why be so pretentious as to not buy from Best Buy?

I'm not understanding.

atsonicpark 07.30.2008 11:49 PM

also, sunn o))) tabs... I hope they do a sunn tab book.

"Okay, this song is 0-0-2-3 for 10 minutes."

And... uh.. "this song is 0-0-0-2-3 for 10 minutes."

"Wait for it guys, this song is 0-0-4-4-5-7! They're stretching out! For 18 minutes!"

atsonicpark 07.30.2008 11:50 PM

Yeah, fuck BestBuy for carrying stuff people actually want! I'M ONLY GOING TO BUY DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUFACTURING PLANT FROM NOW ON!

What's next, people on here not buying from amazon cuz, "duh i hate free shipping it's so sellout"


...and at some point on this board someone referred to me as a snobby pretentious hipster. Hah!

atsonicpark 07.30.2008 11:50 PM

"support The Mail Service!!!!!!! AMAZON'S FREE SHIPPING ON PURCHASES OVER $20 DOESN'T SUPPORT MY LOCAL MAILMAN!!!!!!!!! "

acousticrock87 07.30.2008 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
also, sunn o))) tabs... I hope they do a sunn tab book.

"Okay, this song is 0-0-2-3 for 10 minutes."

And... uh.. "this song is 0-0-0-2-3 for 10 minutes."

"Wait for it guys, this song is 0-0-4-4-5-7! They're stretching out! For 18 minutes!"

Hahaha.

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atsonicpark 07.30.2008 11:56 PM

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 87 hours, try again later.

atsonicpark 07.30.2008 11:57 PM

I think the only sunn song that could actually be tabbed in a non-ridiculous way is probably it took the night to believe.

atsonicpark 07.30.2008 11:57 PM

Ah.

http://www.911tabs.com/tabs/s/sunn_o...elieve_tab.htm

acousticrock87 07.31.2008 12:01 AM

Aw man, and I was up all night trying to figure out those three notes.

atsonicpark 07.31.2008 12:01 AM

hahaha.

acousticrock87 07.31.2008 12:02 AM

I actually just got out my guitar to play that tab. I'm more bored than I realized.

Florya 07.31.2008 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
the new indie thing is sheet music.

"behold! i found an original 1937 reissue sheet of gershwin's "rapsody in blue". i'm indier than you!!"


I'm sorry to have to tell you that your sheet music is probably a fake. The clue is in the spelling of the the word 'rhapsody'. I hope you didn't pay too much for it. :D:p

atsonicpark 07.31.2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrock87
I actually just got out my guitar to play that tab. I'm more bored than I realized.


Here, play the top string, tremolo picked open. Actually, everything I'm saying is tremolo picked.
Then go to the second string, play 2-3.
Then play the top string open.
Then the second string, 2-3-0-4-1.

Why am I having you do this? Cuz I'm more bored than you are.

mangajunky 07.31.2008 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Truth. Why be so pretentious as to not buy from Best Buy?

I'm not understanding.


It's not about pretension. It's the fact that the giant chain doesn't need your money to stay in business, but the mom and pop shop that's struggling to pay their bills desperately needs your business. If you're going to spend your money, give it to individuals not to a megacorp.

MellySingsDoom 07.31.2008 01:43 AM

^^^Agreed. Support your local independent store today.

atsonicpark 07.31.2008 01:44 AM

Yeah, that's agreeable, but I don't live near any mom and pop stores. I buy everything online anyway. Plus I'm guessing independant stores carry much better and, uh, DIFFERENT things than bestbuy would.

marleypumpkin 07.31.2008 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangajunky
It's not about pretension. It's the fact that the giant chain doesn't need your money to stay in business, but the mom and pop shop that's struggling to pay their bills desperately needs your business. If you're going to spend your money, give it to individuals not to a megacorp.


THANK YOU! My point exactly. & yr independent record stores will have much more to choose from than BB. I'm not saying that using many outlet's of collecting vinyl is wrong, but they're has to be a line drawn somewhere, & this is the line for me.

atsonicpark 07.31.2008 08:31 AM

I just don't see why someone would be... "pissed"... by this. But to each their own.

Rob Instigator 07.31.2008 08:57 AM

cool



I used to boy records at KROGER supermarket (like they sell DVD's now) ad I used to get records as a kid a K Mart and those def leppard albums still rocked. they were not less rock because of k mart

Toilet & Bowels 07.31.2008 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marleypumpkin
THANK YOU! My point exactly. & yr independent record stores will have much more to choose from than BB. I'm not saying that using many outlet's of collecting vinyl is wrong, but they're has to be a line drawn somewhere, & this is the line for me.


Maybe you should learn to articulate yourself, it would help when it comes to getting your point across.

atsonicpark 07.31.2008 10:16 AM

That's what my original response said, T&B. But then I was like.. why bother.

Rob Instigator 07.31.2008 10:37 AM

support yr local records stores

Rob Instigator 07.31.2008 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westernquinoxrocks
um wait you guys actually listen to bands that best buy would carry the vinyl of in the first place?

you're all fucking idiots then

buy DIRECTLY from the artists the vinyls you stupid shitheads


You gotta love pre-emptive anger

has best buy sold any vinyls yet?

No
have any of us had a chance to see what they would carry and the price? no
so why the anger about it?
fuck. best buy is a STORE. they sell shit.
they will likely carry re-issue 180 g vinyl for $40 a pop. relax.

tesla69 07.31.2008 10:49 AM

Best Buy is just acting like ambulance chasers. Typical big corporate strategy. Each dollar you spend is a vote. You can vote for independent businesses or vote for mass market transnational corporations. Many of you don't have the option, hell I live in manhattan and I still frequently mail order stuff. Much of the stuff we like if you blink its gone. Record stores rule. I found David Linton's Neutral LP for $8 at OM last weekend. But then I also bought the Batoh/Espvell CD. I'm not obsessed with formats, but I generally buy vinyl if I have the option.

afterthefact 07.31.2008 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
Best Buy is just acting like ambulance chasers. Typical big corporate strategy. Each dollar you spend is a vote. You can vote for independent businesses or vote for mass market transnational corporations. Many of you don't have the option, hell I live in manhattan and I still frequently mail order stuff. Much of the stuff we like if you blink its gone. Record stores rule. I found David Linton's Neutral LP for $8 at OM last weekend. But then I also bought the Batoh/Espvell CD. I'm not obsessed with formats, but I generally buy vinyl if I have the option.


Sort of, except you can vote for both places, and as many times as you want. If I am picking up something by Toshinori Kondo I'm going to head up to good ol' Shake It Records because I know they will have it. But if I want, say, the new Shins and Best Buy has it on sale for $8.99 (this is hypothetical, although similar situtations have happened to me) then sorry Shake It, hope there are no hard feelings and you understand why I bought it from the "Man."

You don't have to make every move and decision throughout the day a statement.

pbradley 07.31.2008 12:42 PM

Amoeba records is already the dominant record store in the city with a number of surviving satellite record stores. Well see if Best Buy can find themselves a corner of the market here.


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