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Diesel 02.14.2013 07:48 PM

My verba...

Ya

words n awesome me mmm yea

Not too bad but it's not too shit either.....calm the fuck d......

like it's alright but not as good as my 2008/2006 unreleased indie hit album is it? idiots!!

Savage Clone 02.14.2013 09:40 PM

God help me, I just don't care about this. I saw all those bands in the early 90s, and Ride and Verve in their early days both wiped the floor with MBV live. Slowdive too. MBV were the loudest, but that's about it.

Jeremy 02.14.2013 09:48 PM

Yeah, what little interest I had is already gone. I don't even remember what most of the songs sound like.

There's just nothing memorable or interesting about this band, in my opinion. So many bands do this sound way better.

GravitySlips 02.15.2013 02:02 AM

Loveless was an important album to me when I first heard it as I'd never heard anything remotely similar at the time. But I overplayed it big time, and it really doesn't age well. Just a fairly boring album with some nice guitar sounds.

This new one is OK but nothing worth getting excited over, to me.

Isn't Anything is decent but not that great either.

I'll always be a fan for nostalgic reasons, and they've some nice songs for sure, but I don't think I'll ever need to listen to MBV again in my life. The same applies to a lot of shoegaze bands, to be fair.

Rob Instigator 02.15.2013 08:57 AM

My fave is the You Made Me Realize EP.

http://youtu.be/j9qLnmEN7S8

Skuj 02.16.2013 01:39 AM

Fuuuuuck me, ....bunch of miserable cunts in this thread. I've been around a while and MBV (the band) have made a string of incredible music for 3 albums in a row now.

blunderbuss 02.16.2013 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
God help me, I just don't care about this. I saw all those bands in the early 90s, and Ride and Verve in their early days both wiped the floor with MBV live. Slowdive too. MBV were the loudest, but that's about it.

I love you, cranky old guy.

Severian 02.16.2013 12:54 PM

I can't help but think that some of us are just so goddamn jaded that we find ways to be disappointed with anything and everything.

It's a NEW my bloody valentine album for fuck's sake!

Antagon 02.16.2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I can't help but think that some of us are just so goddamn jaded that we find ways to be disappointed with anything and everything.

It's a NEW my bloody valentine album for fuck's sake!


WORD! But I think it's probably not a matter of being jaded or not but rather depending on the expectations you had.

Some people expected something radically new or innovative while others were just blown away by the mere fact that MBV finally released some previously unheard material (I'd consider myself one of these). Imho it's probably too much to hope for new material that is pushing the envelope or carries on their legacy in fresh and innotive ways.

I could be wrong about that though and in case they release something new in that direction sometime in the future I wouldn't mind to stand corrected. It's just that most bands run their course sooner or later and attempts to find a new sound are often not appreciated or mocked by critics and fans. What kept MBV fresh is that they stopped producing new stuff at the height of their popularity (That is after the release of Loveless of course).

Like I stated before I adore Loveless and I really dig that m b v is picking up where its predecessor left off. I wasn't expecting much more than that, hell I wasn't even expecting that they'd release that fucker. And with that in mind this is a damn great album. Brilliantly produced drony and dreamy Shoegaze in 2013, what more could I ask for?

Jeremy 02.17.2013 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Fuuuuuck me, ....bunch of miserable cunts in this thread. I've been around a while and MBV (the band) have made a string of incredible music for 3 albums in a row now.


You sure are using a lot of strong words against people simply because they have opposing views on a band you seem to adore so much.

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I can't help but think that some of us are just so goddamn jaded that we find ways to be disappointed with anything and everything.

It's a NEW my bloody valentine album for fuck's sake!

Jaded? Hardly. Just from my own experience, I loved Dinosaur's comeback, especially Beyond. Superchunk returned with one of their best albums period in 2010. In Prism by Polvo was simply great. Mission of Burma has released a string of great records since reuniting. If you call them shoegaze, I'm beyond excited for the new Swervedriver record sometime this year.

The difference between those bands - as well as others - and MBV is they actually create a hook, a song, a melody, an interesting arrangement, etc. MBV is playing a barely audible vocals over the same droney chords throughout that particular song. I don't believe myself or any other "jaded" listener should have to apologize for wanting to listen to something better or more interesting.

And I'm not buying the whole, "It's a great record because it's a new My Bloody Valentine album! I never thought it would get released! For some reason that automatically makes it amazing!". Obeying to that logic, a new 'N Sync record would be incredible because they got Justin Timberlake to come back.

Like I said, if you enjoy the record, more power to you. But don't criticize others, calling us "cunts" or "jaded" simply because we don't have the excitement over it you do.

Antagon 02.17.2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy
The difference between those bands - as well as others - and MBV is they actually create a hook, a song, a melody, an interesting arrangement, etc. MBV is playing a barely audible vocals over the same droney chords throughout that particular song. I don't believe myself or any other "jaded" listener should have to apologize for wanting to listen to something better or more interesting.

And I'm not buying the whole, "It's a great record because it's a new My Bloody Valentine album! I never thought it would get released! For some reason that automatically makes it amazing!". Obeying to that logic, a new 'N Sync record would be incredible because they got Justin Timberlake to come back.

Like I said, if you enjoy the record, more power to you. But don't criticize others, calling us "cunts" or "jaded" simply because we don't have the excitement over it you do.


Nobody should apologize for anything, this is an open discussion and opinions may vary and may or may not tend to be very polarizing. Point taken and I can see were you come from but once again, we're not arguing on an objective standpoint. It's damn near impossible to view art and music in an objective manner anyway. What is 'better' or 'more interesting'? Most people on here love or at least find Loveless to be 'interesting', therefore an album that sort of sounds like Loveless will probably evoke the same feelings for said people (Me being one of them).

Nobody claimed it's a great record solely based on the fact that it's a new MBV album. I believe each one of us stated what exactly we like about the album at some point in the thread. I appreciate the fact that you stand up against some of those unjust insults but for the sake of discussion I have to tell you that mocking or looking down upon the reasons given by the album appreciators is sort of tapping in the same vein, albeit being less blatant.

All generality aside: In my opinion m b v does have melodies, songs and interesting arrangements. They're even damn recognizable and sweet if you ask me.

Severian 02.17.2013 11:22 AM

I didn't mean to insult anyone. I think I myself am an incredibly jaded person. People are free think and feel whatever they think and feel. I'm just saying that for me, it's a new mbv album, and that alone makes it worth while.

Sorry. I really didn't mean to be all prickish about it.

Genteel Death 02.17.2013 01:11 PM

I'm glad I enjoy stuff in a different way than most people.

Genteel Death 02.17.2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
i'm drinking a mountain dew and there ain't a GODDAMN THING YOU CAN DEW ABOUT IT!

I'm drinking wine and feeling ''the ecstasy''.

Genteel Death 02.17.2013 01:32 PM

ECSTASY
 

Genteel Death 02.17.2013 01:35 PM

WINE
 

Genteel Death 02.17.2013 01:37 PM

SEX
 

Skuj 02.17.2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy
You sure are using a lot of strong words against people simply because they have opposing views on a band you seem to adore so much.

The difference between those bands - as well as others - and MBV is they actually create a hook, a song, a melody, an interesting arrangement, etc. MBV is playing a barely audible vocals over the same droney chords throughout that particular song. I don't believe myself or any other "jaded" listener should have to apologize for wanting to listen to something better or more interesting.

Like I said, if you enjoy the record, more power to you. But don't criticize others, calling us "cunts" or "jaded" simply because we don't have the excitement over it you do.


Yeah, sorry, my previous post was done in half jest, and I apologize for it's harshness. Your middle paragraph quoted above though....YIKES! MBV does "abstract" things with their music, and some find this infinitely more interesting than something that is presented "clearly defined". To my ears, the arrangements are monumentally interesting, 20+ years after Loveless, precisely because each listen has me wondering exactly what it is they are trying (or maybe not trying?) to conjure up.

Genteel Death 02.17.2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Yeeeeeeeeah, sorry, my wu tang preveeeeeeious post was done in half jest, and I apologize for HAHA it's harshness. Your middle paragraph quoted above though....YIKES! MBV does "abstract" thingssssss THINGSSSSS with their musiC, and some find HAHA this SO GOOD infinitely more interesting than something that is PresenTed "clearly defined". To my EaRs, the arrangementsssssss are monumentally OH YEAH HMMmmm.... interesting, 20+ years after LovelesSsS, precisely psych folk because each listen has me wondering exactly what it is they are trying (or maybe not trying?) to Cnjure HAHA up.

yeah

Skuj 02.17.2013 10:16 PM

7/10


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