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Mortte Jousimo 12.27.2012 11:52 PM

New Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
 
http://www.nickcave.com/news/new-alb...ay-out-18-feb/

blunderbuss 12.28.2012 02:14 AM

I was excited, but having heard We No Who U R, I'm afraid I fear the worst.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kBl86cIV3g

hipster_bebop_junkie 12.28.2012 02:18 AM

I'll be seeing them on February 19 in Mexico City. Looking forward to it.

Mortte Jousimo 12.28.2012 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blunderbuss
I was excited, but having heard We No Who U R, I'm afraid I fear the worst.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kBl86cIV3g

To me this song sounds that Cave & Co have come back from Grinderman-influenced raw feelings (Dig lazarus) to ballad feelings Ala Nocturama & Boatmanīs Call. Nothing very shocking, but not bad. Of course when itīs Cave itīs possible rest of the album is something totally different.

afterthefact 12.28.2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blunderbuss
I was excited, but having heard We No Who U R, I'm afraid I fear the worst.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kBl86cIV3g


I don't know, I kind of like this song. Maybe because I just did a partial Twin Peaks marathon last night, but I really like the feel of it :)

greedrex 12.28.2012 01:22 PM

I personally like the feel of the artwork.

evollove 12.29.2012 08:27 AM

-Cave is one of those very few artists who have never made an album where at the end I say, "Well, that was an utter waste of 45 minutes."

-That said, DIG LAZARUS was the most boring Bad Seeds album. This must be an improvement.

-This'll be the first post-Mick Harvey album, right?

-If the tunes suck, I look forward to the lyrics. Or vice versa. Or I look forward to hearing how Cave's voice currently sounds. There's always something worth hanging onto on a Bad Seeds album.

-And, of course, I'm looking forward to a tour.

evollove 12.29.2012 08:38 AM

Fuck. Never mind the tour. I see that most of the handful of US dates have sold out already, fucking three months in advance.

Mortte Jousimo 12.31.2012 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
-That said, DIG LAZARUS was the most boring Bad Seeds album. This must be an improvement.

Totally disagree. Abatoir Blues album is ok, but when it came, I thought even it tried to be more rock album than Nocturama, there was something musty. But when Lazarus came, I was really suprised how it rocked, of course it wasnīt new From Her to Eternity, but somehow Cave have backbone lots more in Lazarus than Abatoir.

If this is boring I think listener should watch in the mirror:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyGivD8aJi4

And this rocks much more than so called "rock" bands like Guns & Roses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scTcx60CVG0

Severian 01.01.2013 11:59 AM

I'm pretty god damn excited about this one. I've never complained about a Nick Cave album. Even his soundtracks are great. Lawless less so than ...Jesse James. But a full tilt Bad Seeds release is always something to look forward to.

batreleaser 01.02.2013 08:04 AM

i wish he kept grinderman around a little longer

Severian 01.02.2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
i wish he kept grinderman around a little longer


Yeah. Me too.

EVOLghost 01.02.2013 07:56 PM

I wish I was able to attend that show :(

h8kurdt 01.03.2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
i wish he kept grinderman around a little longer


Really? I dunno. They ok I guess. On each album there were probably 3 or 4 great songs. After that it goes it *shoulder shrug* area.

But I'm hella glad that the Bad Seeds are back. Been waaayyy too long.

Mortte Jousimo 01.05.2013 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
I'm pretty god damn excited about this one. I've never complained about a Nick Cave album. Even his soundtracks are great. Lawless less so than ...Jesse James. But a full tilt Bad Seeds release is always something to look forward to.

I have also loved all the Cave bands & albums, but not those instrumental soundtracks. I listened some album in the record shop and it was ok but not as great as his other stuff. Maybe one reason that I didnīt buy it was that it didnīt came in vinyl if I remembered correct.

batreleaser 01.05.2013 09:05 AM

i love nick cave obviously. my stupid forum name here is from a birthday party song and I even have a stupid tattoo (my first and still only) that says "release the bats" with bats flying around. real dumb. i was young.

Severian 01.05.2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
i love nick cave obviously. my stupid forum name here is from a birthday party song and I even have a stupid tattoo (my first and still only) that says "release the bats" with bats flying around. real dumb. i was young.



Yours is actually my favorite SYG username, just to let you know, and this does not sound that bad.

In all honesty, there is no way your "stupid youth" tattoo is dumber than mine. Mine is so dumb that I refuse to even begin talking about it. The kind of tattoo you have to go to great lengths to hide for the rest of your life, no matter who you're with, or what setting you're in.

My tattoo would get me an asswhooping at a junior high. Seriously.

At least yours represents TBP/Nick Cave, which is badass.

batreleaser 01.05.2013 12:25 PM

hahaah

evollove 01.05.2013 01:23 PM

Seriously, I'll trade your Nick Cave tat for my Nick Carter tat. What the fuck was I thinking?

Mortte Jousimo 01.06.2013 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
i love nick cave obviously. my stupid forum name here is from a birthday party song and I even have a stupid tattoo (my first and still only) that says "release the bats" with bats flying around. real dumb. i was young.

Your tat sounds to me just great, I think if I will take tattoo someday, I could take something like yours (and I am forty) :) . I saw many years ago tattoo in the shop that is like King Crimson Court of the Crimson-cover and I thought I will take it someday. But havenīt done it. I think that image in your tattoo could also have Beefheart`s songname Brickbats.

EVOLghost 01.29.2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
i wish he kept grinderman around a little longer



Ummm they're playing coachella?

So are the bad seeds. So.....

greedrex 03.01.2013 07:32 AM

Been listening to this a lot and it's the best Cave LP since "No more shall we part". Makes me think about The National and Arab Strap. A mean grower....Well done!

evollove 03.01.2013 09:09 AM

Can't wait for the live recordings to start popping up. Year after year, no matter what the recent album sounds like, the live shows are (almost) always worth a listen.

But then, I'm American. Believe it or not, I can, if I choose, go through the rest of my American life without ever hearing a Nick Cave song. But I understand if people in other countries might be sick of him by now.

h8kurdt 03.01.2013 09:10 AM

One doesn't get sick of Nick Cave, Nick Cave gets sick of you.

evollove 03.01.2013 11:23 AM

Ha! True. "Fuck all y'all. I'm gonna go write a novel."

Severian 03.01.2013 06:34 PM

The album does not disappoint.

Mortte Jousimo 04.04.2013 12:20 PM

Finally got this! (Iīve have had problems with vinyl ordering, first I ordered the version where was also 7", then the store said it was out of print, then I ordered ordinary version, after many weeks it was also out of print! Then last monday I ordered it from another store and it came today!)

After first listening I already love it! The some songs reminds me Nocturama, some No More Shall We Part, some Boatmenīs Call, but the arrangements are totally different, so I can say this Cave album he never done before! I really love that here-after-atmosphere thatīs in the vinyl, also those warm seventies-feeling sounds are just great!

BTW did someone got the version with 7"?

evollove 04.04.2013 01:34 PM

I'm still holding off on hearing the album, but I have started to download recent shows and the new stuff sounds great. Moody, good words.

Rob Instigator 04.04.2013 01:41 PM

I AMgoing through life not hearing a Nick Cave song.

Mortte Jousimo 04.05.2013 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I AMgoing through life not hearing a Nick Cave song.

Itīs your problem.

Rob Instigator 04.05.2013 08:03 AM

I'll cope.

Severian 04.07.2013 11:02 AM

The album is too short. My only real complaint.

Mortte Jousimo 04.08.2013 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
The album is too short. My only real complaint.

Better to be great short album than the long with few mediocre songs.

Severian 04.08.2013 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
Better to be great short album than the long with few mediocre songs.


Too true.

chocolate_ladyland 04.21.2013 12:42 PM

I saw him live at Massey Hall (Toronto) on this tour. set worked really well, as he split it between the new album and older, raunchier songs. stagger lee in particular was fantastic. I honestly don't think the bad seeds will ever end

batreleaser 04.21.2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
oh wow, what a boring cunt dick cave is? anyone?


boring.


if making a ton of money, releasing great music and writing decent films is boring, then sure. making us, the most borings cunt in the face of the universe.

evollove 04.21.2013 05:23 PM

Here he is at Cochella with a small orchestra. You know what kinda sucks, though? I look at the "Bad Seeds," and for the most part, I'm like, "Who the fuck are these people?"

Then again, I guess early fans from FROM HERE looked at the LET LOVE IN band and thought the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF3EY6argyM

EDIT: On second thought, the new band really does kind suck. No oomph. The guitars are especially weak. They're not giving Cave what he needs, which is barely-contained insanity.

Mortte Jousimo 04.22.2013 09:25 AM

I just bought ticket to Flow-festival on friday...and to my big suprise there is also Blixa! What a great summer of 2013!

Itīs true there is lesser guitar in todayīs bad seeds, because only one who play it in the album is Warren Ellis (I really liked also heīs playing although he really isnīt Harvey or Blixa). In album it doesnīt bother me at all, but of course it can be different in the live situation. I havenīt watched any of live performances and I believe I will not watch before that Flow gig.

h8kurdt 04.22.2013 12:45 PM

Warren Ellis is incredible and I wont let a bad word be said about him.

evollove 04.22.2013 02:22 PM

It's this "Ed Kuepper" guy.

Listening to shows from DIG LAZ DIG tour, I thought something was off with the guitars. Same with the new shows.

It's this guy, I figured out.

I mean, it's not like he's total shit. I just don't think he belongs in this band. He detracts more than he contributes.

Blixa can play only a few notes and be perfect.
This guy can play through the whole song and add nothing.

That's all.

A weird complaint, I guess.


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