I searched "Pop" and the SYG database returned nothing......
I realize "Pop Music" isn't something the majority of us listen to and some of you down right loath it, but figured there may be room for a little discussion every now and then.
KC had a new song drop today......my buddy who manages / plays / writes for her produced the vocals on her new track, Heartbeat Song
I know some folks on here are big on J-pop, but I do not know if it is done ironically.
Nope. Nakata is a fucking genius. and now you got me started!!!
Magic of Love(single version. the album version has an awful intro
Twinkle Snow Powdery Snow
Go1 Go1 Fine Day
(kyary pamyu pamyu)
Cherry Bon Bon
Ninjari Bang Bang
They're all by the same producer....just the girls are different...that is all.
and now I'm probably going to listening to these songs obsewssively again. dammit.,
Oh yes...there's also bandojanaimon
I had high hopes for these girls...but they eventually added more girls to their lineup and eventually became something more fabricated. This song has a raw element to it that makes it special. The whole 'we are not a band!'(which is their name) iscool....it's like they want to be a idol group...but can't....though...now they're a full fledged idol group.
About a year ago I realized I knew nothing of contemporary pop so I downloaded some Billboard Top whatevers compilations.
Nicki Manage's "Va Va Voom" was infectious. Katy Perry's "Roar" was good--if I was a 12 year old girl it would've changed my life. Ke$ha is so massively talented it's a drag she can only write about going to the club. I'm sure she sometimes has something else on her mind.
But Frank Ocean's "I've Been Thinking About You" was the only one I would call "good" without qualification.
The biggest problem I had was I simply don't share the same values as the people on the charts. None of it means anything to me, and I would be shocked and saddened if any of it actually meant anything to the "artists."
(Also, according to the charts, there are about 5 or 6 chord sequences left in the world. How on earth everyone isn't suing everyone for plagiarism is beyond me.)
Hey. I tried.
i really love pop music.
when i was a kid bands like the spice girls and destiny's child were HUGE for me. and not in a 'wow these women are so powerful' bullshit way (like sorry what little kid actually thinks in these terms?????), i just loved the songs and the personas.
when i was a teenager - in the early years i listened a lot to pop radio (the years of craig david etc, the golden years of britney, i loved all that).
then i discovered 'proper' music aged 13 or 14 - that's all i listened to for a while. after discovering sonic youth in 2002 i spent a lot of time on the old board finding out about weird and wonderful music. i didn't listen to much pop music at this time.
then age 15 or 16 i started going out clubbing & to parties, again listening a lot to chart hits (some favorites from that time are kelis, outkast, basically anything produced by neptunes etc etc).
i think years of working with chart radio on (e.g. in warehouses, shops etc) also meant i got to know a lot of the pop music very well. i love an infectious melody and something you can dance to. i'm also interested in trends in pop music like how it is kinda always the same but always changing. i love the personas of pop stars.
recent years i don't listen so much to chart music (since i work in an office and at home i listen to 'proper' music and i don't go out clubbing much these days) but i still listen to a lot of my old favourites. my boyfriend doesn't know anything about pop music so sometimes we get drunk in the kitchen and i play him some pop classics.
chart music is still on my radar though - how could it not be? it's everywhere!
i also love a lot of 'classic' pop like abba. (i see this as pop before my time). and cheesey 80s synth pop.
i think just like anything else chart music goes through phases of appealing to me and not appealing to me with different trends.
My daughters mean I get to listen to a fair amount of pop - especially in the car
I quite like Little Mix and Ellie Golding and Lorde
quite like as in I can listen to them without having the urge to crash the car
My wife likes one direction but im not convinced that it's the music she's into...
Beyonce's last album was a masterpiece and had more content than just going to the club.
after a lot of time spent listening to Prince, every pop song I hear now is futile
After the Beatles no-one has made as great pop, not even Prince. But of course there has been made good pop. For exampe the Cure.
Yeah I keep meaning to listen property to Beyoncé
You're an idiot if you think that's true.
If you know better pop songs than this:
let me know.
Off the top of my head some great pop songs-
Pretty much anything by ABBA
Billie Jean by Michael Jackson
Like a Virgin-Madonna (I'd say Ray of Light is just as good)
Dancing On The Ceiling-Lionel Richie (he sucks, but god that song is just brilliant)
Put a Ring On It-Beyonce
Where Did Our Love Go-The Supremes
Your Song-Elton John
Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay-Otis Redding
Back in Black-Amy Winehouse
Personal Jesus-Depeche Mode
Go Your Own Way-Fleetwood Mac
Rolling In The Deep-Adele
Life's What You Make It-Talk Talk
Somebody I Used To Know-Gotye
Call Me Maybe-Taylor Swift
Daft Punk-Get Lucky
And two songs more recently that kill it
Take Me To Church-Hozier
Uptown Funk-Mark Ronson
To reiterate-to make out that the only great pop songs were done by the Beatles is narrow-minded at best, and plain moronic at worst. And I say this loving The Beatles.
If we're talking 60s pop, Burt Bachrach gives the Beatles a run for their money. There's a box set called The Look Of Love: The Burt Bacharach Collection which is a feast of genius pop.
Here are some highlights, with an asterisk next to the "drop what your doing and listen now!" tracks:
* Please Stay - The Drifters
I Wake Up Crying - Chuck Jackson
* Any Day Now (My Wild Beautiful Bird) - Chuck Jackson
* Make It Easy On Yourself - Jerry Butler
I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself - Tommy Hunt
It's Love That Really Counts (In The Long Run) - The Shirelles
*******!!!!! Don't Make Me Over - Dionne Warwick!!!**** (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEgxuE7WD6U)
Let The Music Play - The Drifters
Anyone Who Had A Heart - Dionne Warwick
Kentucky Bluebird (Send A Message To Martha) - Lou Johnson
My Little Red Book - Manfred Mann
Do You Know The Way To San Jose - Dionne Warwick
This Guy's In Love With You - Herb Alpert
This is on top of all the stuff you probably already know. "I Say a Little Prayer," "Walk on By," "I'll Never Fall In Love Again," etc
Call me narrowminded or anything you want, but I think you have listed here just ordinary pop songs. Most of them are good of course. Bacharach has been a lot better to do catchy melodies than most of today´s pop composers, but that´s all. Strawberry, Eleanor Rigby, Tomorrow Never Knows, Lucy in the Sky with diamonds, a Day In Life, Dear Prudence, Happiness Is a Warm Gun etc. mix art & pop very genius way that no-one had made before and I think hasn´t made after that (at least better than the Beatles).
I don´t understand the tendency to negate the importance of the Beatles. I think also today´s music will sound really different if Beatles has never existed. Or do you think the new Sgt version of Flaming Lips is just a joke from them?
I ain't dissing the Beatles. Just saying Burt at his best makes pop just as catchy and sophisticated. For example: If you know how to count beats, figure out the timing to the chorus of "I Say a Little Prayer." Nothing "ordinary" about that. And his chords are really fucked up in a fascinating way.
And Youtube clips don't do justice to how great his best records sound--he produced his own stuff a lot--so I'm gonna go ahead and say his studio skills can easily compete with George Martin's.
I agree with all of the above and could add many many more. By the by, I thought that Call Me Maybe was Carly Rae Jepson? No matter it's a good track anyway.
Even if you think the Beatles wrote the best pop songs (contentious to begin with! but a matter of opinion so...) doesn't mean there are no other great pop songs. The Beatles did not exist in a vacuum - while I agree they have had a HUGE impact on modern pop music that does not necessarily mean they are automatically BETTER than the music they have inspired. (It also doesn't necessarily follow that because they have had a lot of influence means they are essentially good or better than other acts).
Of course it all comes down to personal opinion but I think that there has been a lot more interesting pop music than the Beatles. I appreciate it is easy in hindsight to think the Beatles are not that great since now they are so overplayed and imitated. But if you look at the landscape of pop music now I think it is a lot more varied & interesting - yes in part due to the Beatles but I think it would be really churlish to ignore e.g. the influence of hip hop (amongst others!). Speaking of which don't you think it is important to note that four white guys dominate so many people's perspective of music which is rooted in black origins????
just my thoughts on the matter as a lover of non-Beatles pop music ;)
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