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!@#$%! 12.29.2008 12:08 PM

Israel vs. Hamas
 
who do you support?

let the flaming begin...

fugazifan 12.29.2008 12:10 PM

neither. fuck em all.
nothing warrants killing 200 people in a day...
fucking idiots, the lot of em...

!@#$%! 12.29.2008 12:11 PM

what about the rockets raining on ashkelon?

soupisgoodfood 12.29.2008 12:16 PM

I support the Palestinians. Israelis/Judes has STOLEN this country, whit good help from UN and USA.

!@#$%! 12.29.2008 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soupisgoodfood
I support the Palestinians.


i support a free state and human rights for palestinians, but do you think hamas has a productive agenda w/ their desire for the destruction of israel? im not arguing at this point, just asking. i don't buy everything i see on tv so i'm probing here.

Alex's Trip 12.29.2008 12:48 PM

It's all fucked up.

fugazifan 12.29.2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
what about the rockets raining on ashkelon?

its a problem, thats why i support neither
but again, the very few people that have been killed by their rockets + the nuisance that they cause, do not equal the amount of death that has occured in gaza over the last 3 days

diskaholic-anonymous 12.29.2008 01:03 PM

this conflict is far away to be solve...so let's call the "super-police of the world" oh! but there isn't oil or weapons of ass destruction!!??...so let the israelis and palestinians kill each other until the last man!!
fuck them all! fuck politics and religion! why the leaders don't go to a boxing arena and fight with each other to solve they "issues"...just let the people live in peace!

fugazifan 12.29.2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diskaholic-anonymous
this conflict is far away to be solve...so let's call the "super-police of the world" oh! but there isn't oil or weapons of ass destruction!!??...so let the israelis and palestinians kill each other until the last man!!
fuck them all! fuck politics and religion! why the leaders don't go to a boxing arena and fight with each other to solve they "issues"...just let the people live in peace!

its very hard to resolve any issue when both sides really belive in the bible, and that their way is the right way. i mean how do you argue with god?

diskaholic-anonymous 12.29.2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan
its very hard to resolve any issue when both sides really belive in the bible, and that their way is the right way. i mean how do you argue with god?


how can you argue with silence? maybe someday that silence gonna argue with us?! and i think they don't believe int the bible, they just believe what leaders tell , with a bible meaning...who is on control knows what the people wants to hear.

!@#$%! 12.29.2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diskaholic-anonymous
this conflict is far away to be solve...so let's call the "super-police of the world" oh! but there isn't oil or weapons of ass destruction!!??...so let the israelis and palestinians kill each other until the last man!!
fuck them all! fuck politics and religion! why the leaders don't go to a boxing arena and fight with each other to solve they "issues"...just let the people live in peace!

briefly back to say this reads to me like you're calling for the extermination of palestinians. they wouldn't "kill each other to the last man", israel has a huge military superiority, including nukes, for fucks sake-- guess who would win if the muzzles were completely removed? im gonna sound like khchris but *cough* it sounds to me like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. this shit isn't a fistfight like you wish it were. i say a few skirmishes a year are better than genocide.

now, yeah, fuck politics and religion, because religion removes reason from the equation. frankly, while i am no fan of right-wing israeli factions (irgun & their heirs), i see hamas as the nuttier party here, but who knows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fugazifan
its very hard to resolve any issue when both sides really belive in the bible, and that their way is the right way. i mean how do you argue with god?


once upon a time i read an article some rabbi in that right-wing rag jerusalem post saying something like "we don't have the authority to negotiate our borders because this land was given to us by god". mang. exactly.

ok i need to remove myself from this thread until later or i'll be in trouble.

█████████ 12.29.2008 01:23 PM

the existance of israel doesn't make any sense.
i defend the "one state" solution.

DeadDiscoDildo 12.29.2008 01:25 PM

He said weapons of ASS destruction.

Let the 'flaming' begin.

haha

diskaholic-anonymous 12.29.2008 01:32 PM

[quote=!@#$%!]briefly back to say this reads to me like you're calling for the extermination of palestinians. they wouldn't "kill each other to the last man", israel has a huge military superiority, including nukes, for fucks sake-- guess who would win if the muzzles were completely removed? im gonna sound like khchris but *cough* it sounds to me like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. this shit isn't a fistfight like you wish it were. i say a few skirmishes a year are better than genocide."

just said with the miss white house thoughts. not mine.

Glice 12.29.2008 02:30 PM

I'd like to see a meaningful ceasefire. I'd like to see Israel's neighbours not being bastards. I'd like to see a more even-handed reporting in the 'liberal' press. I'd like Hamas to quietly disappear. I'd like Israel to be less trigger-happy. I'd like to go to Jerusalem next year.

nicfit 12.29.2008 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I'd like to see a meaningful ceasefire. I'd like to see Israel's neighbours not being bastards. I'd like to see a more even-handed reporting in the 'liberal' press. I'd like Hamas to quietly disappear. I'd like Israel to be less trigger-happy. I'd like to go to Jerusalem next year.

Are you the Pope?

Glice 12.29.2008 02:37 PM

In many ways, no.

nicfit 12.29.2008 02:39 PM

Good for you.



Sorry guys, go on with the serious disquisition. For real.

acousticrock87 12.29.2008 02:41 PM

Joint state for sure, but that will never happen.

Regardless of how the Israelis got there, they're there now. Anti-Zionism was one thing (although I'm not against it, exactly--I read a book :rolleyes:), but to be anti-Israeli at this point is, in my humble opinion, a bit retarded.

MellySingsDoom 12.29.2008 04:37 PM

In spite of the massive absurd-fest that is the current "conflict" (like an angry ant confronting several wearers of 18-hole DM boots), I support the right of Israel to exist. Sorry to the Israel nay-sayers.....their treatment of the Palestinians is criminal, but then so has been the response over the decades...and, ahem, when WILL Jordan give back the East Bank? Anyone???


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